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Title: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Terra Artemos on August 17, 2012, 11:16:01 AM Hello to all those that remember me, and to those that don't know me, I am the maintainer for the Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter. As I have been away for some time I wanted to poke my head in and get a feel for the state of these in Santharia, and to find out from the users if these tools are still accurate, or if they need updating.
Please let me know if you have any issue, questions or comments on these. Thanks. Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on August 17, 2012, 11:23:34 AM :D Nice to see you, Terra. I use the converter often, and I have no issues with it. It has always served me well.
Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Terra Artemos on August 17, 2012, 12:47:21 PM Good to hear. :)
Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Kelancey the Green on August 17, 2012, 10:57:59 PM Terra! What an unexpected pleasure seeing you again! I hope we get to see more of you in the coming days? And, to your question, I love what you have done with the Elven Age Calculator and Measures Converter. :grin:
Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Seh'nara Celebrindal on August 17, 2012, 11:43:36 PM Hi Terra! I don't think we've ever RPed together or anything, but I definitely remember you. :D
I was wondering if you could add some sort of backwards calculation feature? Some players tend to put the elf ages on their CD direct, and it takes a bit of trial and error to find out exactly how old they are in human years. Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Terra Artemos on August 18, 2012, 05:42:39 AM Hmmmm... Not sure. Honestly I wrote the code a long time ago and it's been a while since I have even poked my head into it. Definitely something I would consider more strongly if there is a great demand. I do remember that JavaScript, as that is the language it was written in was not the best solution in terms of functionality, however when I originally wrote it I planned for it to be integrated with the Santharia website it's self and Java Script seemed the most universal way. I can't promise backward calculation, but I can poke my head in and see if that is even possible.
I guess I can assume that no changes have been made to elves lifespans, or any tribes have been added. Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Terra Artemos on August 18, 2012, 06:59:32 AM Addendum on the reverse aging calculation. At this time it does not seem possible to set up the age calculator to do reverse calculations due to the way aging calculations are currently handled. The following 3 equations would need to be merged into a single equation to allow for it to be done in reverse.
See the following for an idea of what I am working with... Code: /* Final Calculations */ //Elder Calculation if(targetage > 40) { var resultage = Math.round((targetage - 40) * 0.5 +(resultLifespan - 20)); var skillset = Math.round((targetage - 40) / 2) + 60; } //Adult Calculation else if(targetage > 20) { var resultage = Math.round((targetage - 20) * ((lifespan - 45) / 20) + (((resultLifespan * 20) + 12800) / 720)); var skillset = Math.round((targetage - 20) * 2) + 20; } //Child Calculation else { var resultage = Math.round(targetage * (resultLifespan + 640) / 720); var skillset = targetage; } Addendum: For an explanation for what all that coding stuff means (That's just the part that give a final age, and where all the HEAVY math gets done.) take a look at this thread over at the dev board http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,6780.0.html (http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,6780.0.html). Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Terra Artemos on August 18, 2012, 10:15:10 AM Just a note. Since I brought up the topic I found a typo, and a fairly major bug, namely that I had the wrong adult elf age formula implemented and it was not working correctly. A newer version will be uploaded shortly. I would advise CD Mods to let any ages generated with the old version.
Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Terra Artemos on August 22, 2012, 03:14:40 AM So, the EAC is updated and seems to be working correctly. Please note that with this update adult ages will not match those generated previously. I have also played with the idea of the previously suggested reverse EAC, however I am deadlocked at reversing formula for adult ageing, as it is very complex. It's not an impossibility, but an improbability.
Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on August 22, 2012, 10:15:14 AM :huh: How big of a difference are we talking about between old ages and the new ages.
Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Terra Artemos on August 22, 2012, 01:23:17 PM That will vary depending on the elves age and tribe, however it should only effect elves ages by up to 15 years lived at the most. Also elves on the cusp of adulthood will no longer be their lifespan - 5 years, then their lifespan - 9 at the beginning of elderhood, this obviously did not work. I would like to point out that the EAC uses linear formulas, not a more natural curve, so the EAC was only ever meant as a guide, not gospel. If that is kept in mind I don't think the variance should cause anyone to panic.
Title: Re: Poking my head in... Elven Aging Calculator and Measures Converter Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on August 27, 2012, 04:06:58 AM Ok, well that's something to keep in mind. Obviously, any CD created before now will be grandfathered in.
We appreciate you keeping this up, Terra. :) |