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« Reply #15 on: 21 August 2006, 22:52:04 »

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Read on... This aspect changes in different directions during the course of the whole timeline.
I was asking what it's like at the present, actually.  Towards the end, it looked like Santharia once again has a ruling dynasty, instead of the Santhrans being elected. 
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« Reply #16 on: 21 August 2006, 23:11:58 »

We haven't reached the current date in the discussion, but there was intention to get the old Santhros line back at the current date, so that Tiandor (current Santhran) is a decendant of Santhros. Personally I would favour the reintroduction of the voting system as is described in the Santharia entry during the last 100 years - that however doesn't exclude that a descendant of Santhros can be the current Santhran.
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« Reply #17 on: 21 August 2006, 23:16:13 »

Ah, I see.  I suppose that the descendents of Santhros will end up becoming the Thanes of one of the provinces then? 
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« Reply #18 on: 22 August 2006, 00:23:16 »

Well, if we don't want to throw away the nice table Judy has made - the heirs of Santhros in the last 100 years have to be so strong and so much support that they will be elected without question. Maybe we could change it in a way, that not always the first born is elected.
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« Reply #19 on: 22 August 2006, 02:49:56 »

Was just glancing through, and noticed that there is a slight mistake for the ERPHERONIANS

It should state that the "h" should come after a consonent not a vowel  grin


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« Reply #20 on: 24 August 2006, 13:50:26 »

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Erm, if you could have more than one of Santhros' descendents eligible for the throne at the same time, wouldn't that mean that the family holds the Thaneship in more than one province?  Remember, only Thanes can become Santhrans.  I'm okay with the last few Santhrans all being Santhros' direct descendents, but not with the family (minus the Santhran) ruling more than one province. 
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« Reply #21 on: 24 August 2006, 18:14:03 »

Oh well, you are right, ... we will find a solution, and if we abandon this electing, like we did it already in the timeline.

I didn't think of that, but now that you mention it, it could well be that more than one from the Santhors line are Thanes, they only need to marry inot another line......  interesting  complots can be invented!  :) Mina, you involuntarily gave me some ideas, lol
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« Reply #22 on: 25 August 2006, 06:26:08 »

LOVE the name guidelines!  I thought it was a fabulous idea from the outset, and it's great to see it being developed.  I regret I couldn't have had a hand in it.  Thank you all for thrashing that small but important subset of historical development out...

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« Reply #23 on: 25 August 2006, 10:25:33 »

I case you're bored, Judy ( evil ) - there are a lot of more tribes that need further name guidelines...  We only have 3 so far, and the Eyelians still need to be completed. rolleyes - At any rate we need such guidelines for all Santharian tribes BEFORE we can put up any detailed history, as we need to define lots names of rulers, according to their origin.
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« Reply #24 on: 25 August 2006, 13:34:09 »

Well, since you guys aren't receptive to the idea of making the names only after the languages have been done (which I suppose probably was a little impractical), how about creating naming languages before the names?  Naming languages don't require as much effort or time as fully fleshed-out languages.  They're really more like language sketches.  In fact, what you're doing isn't that different.  You just need to decide what the phonologies (the sounds of the language, basically) and orthographies (what letters represent what sounds) are like, and some bits of grammar and vocabulary so you know how to construct the names (especially place names). 
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« Reply #25 on: 25 August 2006, 13:48:17 »

Feel free to develop an example...
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« Reply #26 on: 25 August 2006, 13:55:08 »

Maybe, if I get any ideas.  It shouldn't be too hard to add some stuff to one of the naming schemes you've done.  Any requests about how the languages should sound like?  Really harsh or Quenya-like or whatever? 
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« Reply #27 on: 25 August 2006, 16:09:30 »

What we did at Santhmoot was basically the following:

We looked what kind of names were already available for a certain tribe. We tried to find similarities if any and added our own ideas, based on the existing names and descriptions of the tribe or the surrounding area. I suppose you could do exactly the same thing.
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« Reply #28 on: 25 August 2006, 18:05:34 »

Okay, I made an attempt.  It's in the Languages forum now.  Basically I looked at the sample names and tried to think of the sounds that those letters might represent, and tried to come up with a phonology and orthography that'd allow the names.  It doesn't look very interesting, but I don't think you wanted anything particularly exotic anyway. 
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« Reply #29 on: 06 March 2007, 23:39:16 »

A first remark until I review it all more thoroughly;

It will be hard for the Helcrani to have an archbishop of the 12 since they consider them inferior and believe to Ava, just like the elves (who along with dwarves form two of the Helcrani clans). Maybe they could have an archbishop of Ava, as a heresy...
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