Santharian Development

Organization and General Discussions => Newbie Information, Joining Requests and Recruitment => Topic started by: Llwy on 20 October 2006, 07:46:10



Title: G'day there!
Post by: Llwy on 20 October 2006, 07:46:10
G'day there!
Today after having dinner with a friend of mine, his brother and this girl , of which I can't remember the name, at a really nice place, called Broodje Ploff, we were talking about lots of stuff and then he started telling me about this website (THIS website) that was creating a world in such depth that I just had to check it out. So here I am.

I am known by many names, and in one of the more exotic languages I call myself Llwy. I am 19 years old (ack, so old!), male and I just started studying Celtic Languages and Culture this year.

My main fields of interest are languages, history and culture. But you can also find me developing some kind of weird creature or plant.
I hope that I can help in further developing this great world!


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Mina on 20 October 2006, 08:08:08
Cool, another person who's into languages.  What 'exotic language' is that, BTW?  Welsh? 


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Llwy on 20 October 2006, 08:17:29
Welsh it is!

(I have just thought of a creature that I'm going to develop further.)


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 20 October 2006, 16:27:57
Welcome, Llwy!

You will find some hints to the welsh language already here on the site. I'm curious, if you will find them. (We had a member here who was speaking /learning Welsch)

Before you start with any beast in any territory, please ask first if it is ok. Some of us are very protective of our territories, to speak with Mina ;), and some things just don't fit into Caelereth.

Have fun here!


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Kareesh Valendar on 20 October 2006, 17:15:18
*wavies* 'ullo there! Welcome to the land of Santharia. I'm really tired 'cause I'm pulling an all nighter for studying for mid-terms. So...I'll just leave my intro as that before I say something really stupid.


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 20 October 2006, 19:20:08
Hello and welcome Llwy!  :wave:

Another Dutch guy here I notice - we have quite a bit of this species. Also if I remember correctly Ishmaelion (also from the Netherlands) is about to study Celtic as well, isn't it?  :rolleyes: Is Ish this friend of yours perhaps or is it just coincidence?  :huh:

Anyway, there's lots to discover and to do here, so just have a look around and see where you can fit in, I hope you'll enjoy it! :D


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Arceon Barrurbeleth on 21 October 2006, 01:22:06
*another person enters the hall rewriting his Moonmouth entry*

Greetings Llwy!

I am Arceon and I hope that you will fit in well in this world!:grin: I'd surely like to learn Celtic languages but I still can't handle English well so I better get to work. 
And of course try our finest drinks (http://www.santharia.com/compendium/drinks.htm) and snacks. (http://www.santharia.com/compendium/snacks_of_santharia.htm)

*walks away looking at an empty piece of paper and grumbling*


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Irid alMenie on 21 October 2006, 03:14:21
Hello, Llwy!

My guess was also that Ishy is your friend... he's the only other dutch person knowing something of welsh. As soon as you mentioned it, I went to see if you were from the netherlands

Om je even welkom te heten in je eigen taal: ik kom van Belgie. Van Vlaanderen, zoals je intussen wel had kunnen raden. Je zal je hier snel genoeg thuis voelen.

Arti: Ishy wasn't about to start Celtic languages, he has started Celtic languages. One or two months ago, I'm not sure. So it's entirely possible that he's the famous friend, right? ;)

(oeh, gossiping about ishy, right in public... Naughty *grins*)

Irid


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Gean Firefeet on 21 October 2006, 05:10:36
The idea to organize a Dutch-orientated Santhmoot someday sounds more promising every time I visit the boards.

Hartelijk welkom dus! Alvast veel plezier met het ontdekken van de 'dieptes' die deze webstek biedt!

Which is, roughly paraphrased, a most heartily welcome from my side and a suggestion to read and enjoy all that this website has to offer.

With all these linguists here, we'd surely get this tribe-language/dialect project rolling.


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 21 October 2006, 06:54:48
Ah, but it must have been Ishy who introduced our new friend to the Dream. Broodje Ploff is right here in the Duth Santharian Capital, Utrecht.... and, not far from the place Ishy is having his classes too  :grin:

*note to self* Meet Ishy sometime soon.... its been three months since we've been within a mile's radius of eachother frequently, and we've never met..

We should definately arrange for some sort of Dutchmoot sometime Gean.. although it might get problematic if we're going to find a bit of free time in our combined scedules  :azn:

edit-> And Llwy, you're not old.. many of us are older.. sometimes much older *coughcoughTaliacoughcough* *hides deep in the Drifting Woods in case she heard that*


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Llwy on 21 October 2006, 08:31:39
hahaha!
Well, you all guessed right. It is Ishmaelion!! :thumbup:

@Irid: Is van BelgiŽ komen typisch Vlaams? Ik ben zelf opgegroeid in het meest oostelijke puntje van Noord-Brabant (tegen Limburg dus) en ik heb net te horen gekregen dat ik een gezellig accent heb...

Back to English!
I've never been so welcome on a forum before!! YAY!


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Irid alMenie on 21 October 2006, 16:43:41
Ik bedoel dat ik niet van Wallonie kom, aangezien mijn moedertaal Nederlands is en niet Frans :)

We always try to make new people feel as welcome as possible. And we're just generally very nice people *grins*


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 21 October 2006, 18:17:49
Well, I didn't think of Ishy, I meant another person. ;)



*thinks about creating a deadly monster living under the Drifting Woods which will be able to paralise a certain individual researching there*  :evil:


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 21 October 2006, 19:18:12
Hmmm.. Charge my brave Nybelmer! Away with the minion of the Evil Queen of Shendar!


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Gean Firefeet on 21 October 2006, 21:15:43
Rough translation of Dutch proverb: "Where two dogs fight for a bone, a third one will take it home"

Do fight on... *plots wickedly*


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Falethas Whisperwind on 21 October 2006, 22:04:11
Hahahaha... This is most definitely entertaining!

Hello, Llwy, and welcme to the Dream!  I am also very fond of languages - particularly our elven one, StyrŠsh - and so can usually be found over on that board helping out as best I can.  Sometimes you'll find me over at the Magic board as well.

Again, welcome, and may your stay here be productive and enjoyable!  :grin:


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 22 October 2006, 00:30:14
Well, your proverb doesn't fit so well, Gean, I don't see two dogs fighting, more a Chorakee and a Rahaz-Estar, which, btw, won't hesitate to consume a wandering historian  :evil:


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Gean Firefeet on 22 October 2006, 03:33:57
I never said I would come and take the 'bone' personally, I'm quite sure one of my most loyal manservants will take on the challenge of interfering in your 'discussion' *grins*

btw sorry for taking over the thread, feel free to take matters in your own hand again Llwy, or simply join in.


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Marvin Cerambit on 22 October 2006, 05:44:21
Bij mijn weten is van BelgiŽ komen typisch Vlaams aangezien de meeste Vlamingen uit BelgiŽ komen :P

Welcome to Santharia. I'm from Flanders :)


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 23 October 2006, 18:30:18
Ik moet je daar in corrigeren Marvin... Het is typisch belgisch om vlaams te zijn, aangezien alle vlamingen uit belgie komen....

het is daarentegen wel net zo typisch vlaams als wallonisch om belgisch te zijn, daar alle vlamingen en walloniers uit belgie komen. XD


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Marvin Cerambit on 23 October 2006, 19:53:20
Tsk. Het is typisch Vlaams om Belgisch te zijn. Alle Vlamingen zijn Belg, dus is het een algemene eigenschap van een Vlaming dat hij ook Belg is, maw. het typeert hem.

Een Belg is ofwel Vlaming, ofwel Waal, ofwel Brusselaar, dus niet alle Belgen zijn ook Vlaming, dus het is niet typisch voor een Belg om ook Vlaming te zijn.


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 23 October 2006, 19:56:55
i stand corrected :)


*slips a few Tunneling Driftspiders into Gean's pockets*


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Llwy on 23 October 2006, 20:07:46
Ga vrolijk verder met het filosoferen over welke plaats de Vlaming in deze wereld inneemt. Ik vind het erg grappig  :grin:


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 23 October 2006, 20:09:32
een ondergeschikte XD

Belgie zou er goed aan doen te ontmantelen, vlaanderen bij nederland te voegen, en het achterlopende wallonie bij frankrijk te dumpen..


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Marvin Cerambit on 23 October 2006, 20:17:30
Nja, ga mijn mening over het opsplitsen van BelgiŽ achterwege laten wegens te uitgebreid, maar ga gewoon vermelden dat we nooit bij Nederland zouden komen.

*wonders what non-Dutch people are thinking*


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Ralhag Silverskin on 24 October 2006, 00:10:48
We're thinking you're crazy.

I can't lie.

You are either crazy, uor you have the WORST spelling in the history of the world!!

I don't recognize ANY words that you guys are saying...

Is it some other language?

Some make believe, crazy person, language??

;)

Ralhag


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Irid alMenie on 24 October 2006, 03:24:38
Ghehe, dat WalloniŽ bij Frankrijk mag is geen probleem, dat ze daar een beetje over solidariteit gaan zeuren en intussen al het geld aftroggelen. Maar Vlaanderen is economisch sterk genoeg om het zonder Nederland af te kunnen, (zeker als we al dat geld niet meer aan WalloniŽ moeten geven) en het zou trouwens toch nooit werken. Het werkte de vorige keer ook niet ;)

Ik heb een beter idee: dat Nederland bij Vlaanderen komt. Dan komen de treinen daar ook een keertje op tijd voor de verandering :P

Oh no, Ralhag, our spelling is quite good. We can't help it if other people don't recognize it, can we now :p


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 24 October 2006, 04:05:39
vind ik ook best... het is internationaal gezien alleen handiger om de gebieden samen te voegen... hoe je het dan noemt zal me worst wezen :)


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 24 October 2006, 04:06:17
Ralhag, it is said that their language is something inbetween German and English. I understand maybe half of what they are saying, just try hard and you will succeed!as well! ;) (I have of course the advantage of knowing both languages!)


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Marvin Cerambit on 24 October 2006, 04:44:45
Dutch is a lot closer to German then English. It's one of the main reasons why I can understand and make myself understandable in German (when speaking, grammar and vocabulary tend to become a bit butchered along the way, but people can normally understand what I’m babbling about).


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Gean Firefeet on 24 October 2006, 05:02:11
I do agree with Marvin that German is far closer than English. I think if Ralhag would hear what we're writing about, in other words, would have the words said to him, he might have an easier job understanding our babbling. I think the Dutch language has a more complex system of spelling-sound link than english, where there are less distinguishable sounds. Note, aforementioned is pure speculation, I'll stand as easily corrected as Mira if necessary... now wait, where did Mira go. And what's that itch? Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

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Following scene was censored, but surely involved some spiders feasting on human blood and a rather phantasmagorial resurrection ritual, giving the character the chance to write this message.
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Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Irid alMenie on 24 October 2006, 06:24:50
No, you're quite right, Gean. To give an example: An English d or t *should* be pronounced as a d or a t, also when they're at the end of a word. A Dutch d or t at the end of a word is a t. Or a dt at the end of the word, which is also possible. We pronounce it a t in any case

The reason I say should be is that Dutch people tend to say a t for an English d too.

This is just one example, and there are lots more, many of them concerning assimilation rules that I've had to learn but aren't very interesting *grins*

*edges away from the spiders*
Irid


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Bard Judith on 24 October 2006, 14:27:01
"Ja" toe Gean ant Irid ook.   Ik kan niet Hollanse writing; mijn spelling is heel vreeslik - maar ik kan een kleine beetje praten.... and I think I'd understand far more conversational Dutch if I HEARD it, than I can decipher in the messages above!

Honorary-out-of-pity-Dutchie,
Judith


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Irid alMenie on 24 October 2006, 21:04:54
Could I ask where you learned Dutch?

And conversational dutch might be a problem, depending on where you learned it. If you learned it in the Netherlands, Flemish Dutch might be a bit of a problem, and vice versa. I sometimes have trouble understanding people from the north of the Netherlands (no offense if anyone's from there).

Irid


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Gean Firefeet on 24 October 2006, 23:51:22
Gean whispers "Our bard is of Dutch descendance".

What you say is of course true Irid, but dialects differ within each country, it just depends on how heavily it influences your 'common speech', the language you practice against foreigners so to say. I find the idea that Dutch television subtitles Flemish speech rather ridiculis, on the other hand I understand that some of my fellow Dutchmen need it. I do live only 15 miles from the border after all, I've had Flemish teachers, I know what 'goesting' means, for example  :P


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: ishmaelion on 25 October 2006, 02:07:36
Ja, ondertiteling bij belgische programma's is hard nodig hier in Drenthe, de meeste mensen kunnen niet eens normaal Nederlands hier :grin:

BTW:

WELCOME LLWY!

PS:
I am indeed that rascal that introduced Llwy to this fantastic board under a well-deserved piece of hamburger!


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: italian_shadow13 on 25 October 2006, 09:19:10
If there happens to be a favorite thing about fantasy, it'd have to be the different abilities in the characters.  They all have thier very own style, amount of strength, wisdom, and charm.  I've finished my brainstorming for a story i'm soon to start.  It's called"The Young Weilder", yet it takes more time than i would have thought.


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Bard Judith on 25 October 2006, 14:06:37
Ouch, Irid!  Was it that terrible to decipher?  Yes, I'm of Dutch descent - second generation, here in Canada.  Mijn fader was en Drenthe geborne, and came over on the boat as a teen.  He learned to speak English with almost no perceptible accent (other than Canadian, I guess) but retained his Dutch and spoke it around the house when we were growing up.   I'm told when I speak the little I do know that I have a pronounced Drenthse (peasant) accent!  :D


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Llwy on 25 October 2006, 17:26:15
I understand most Flamish, but sometimes I do need subtitles to follow the rapid chatter of Flamish Police Series on TV. And I live kinda south <.<a

@ Italian_shadow: You just managed to post off topic in an already existing off topic discussion o.O


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Irid on 25 October 2006, 20:28:30
Oh, I´m very sorry if that sounded like I didn´t understand what you wrote. That was not the idea, I understood you perfectly. I was merely curious, that´s all.

About the subtitles, I understand why it´s necessary sometimes, but the broadcasting companies can exaggarate. And then the subtitles show almost exactly the same as what the people say, only one or two words changed.

I know some belgian people who talk with a real Dutch accent (bekakt Nederlands) when they talk to Dutch people. But when they talk Flemish it´s with a real Antwerpish Dialect, so I can understand why. I, however, principally refuse to talk with a Dutch accent (apart from knowing that it´d sound absolutely ridiculous) because Dutch people understand me anyway. Most of them, that is. When I was first together with my boyfriend he even asked me if I spoke more "standard dutch" than normally because of him, even though I talked the way I always talk. (My boyfriend is from the Netherlands)

Ok that post was longer than I imagined. Hopefully it will post because I´m not logged in.


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Kareesh Valendar on 26 October 2006, 03:22:29
Hm....I believe I have no Dutch blood in me at all....although I am a 3rd/4th generation immagrant from Germany on my mom's side. Don't ask me about speaking German, though. I don't know it all that well. Although I can count to 10! ^^ That counts for something, right?


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Llwy on 27 October 2006, 08:49:55
German is a most beautiful and noble language! And counting to 10 is the first path to enlightenment :thumbup:


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Gean Firefeet on 27 October 2006, 21:43:25
If counting to ten in German is the first path to enlightenment, you go straight to heaven when you can count to ten in Gaelic, right? :b (sorry, couldn't resist)


Title: Re: G'day there!
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 27 October 2006, 22:21:26
:rolling: