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Santharian World Development => Races, Tribes and Clans => Topic started by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 02 December 2006, 04:43:27



Title: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 02 December 2006, 04:43:27
I would prefer, if all three entries could go up at the same time.







 Thank you for your time, Coren!




A note before: I thought lately, that we should write more in character, that means, that Talia will only write what Talia can know, that she is a person in Santharia and shares many of the prejudices; she might be more open to new ideas like the common men (with all those people she knows!), but generally, she is a child of her time.
That means: You won‘t find a comparison in the following submission of the Swamphags with the mermaids or the rivermaids, for this idea is totally absurd even for researchers. Only so odd people like Ansird of Necoma might think of it, but he is not heard. Nor is it explained, how the swamphags are able to hypnotise their victims.



Swamphags and Moorcrocks



Preliminary Remarks

To compile the essay on these creatures living in swamps turned out to be quite difficult. Reliable sources were rare, most of the description below is based on assumptions, on prejudice and tradition taken for granted. The Compendium Archivist do not guarantee the accuracy of the following information. 

Overview

Swamphags, Moorcrocks or Twilight Fouls - all those names tell of one of the most ugly and possibly evil creatures of  Sarvonia. Living in moor and bottomless swamps, they are believed to be the personified disaster of any sentient being which dares to get near their realm when the night approaches.

 To: „...one of the most ugly and possibly evil creatures of the known Sarvonia.“
I took out the „known“ as requested, I don‘t know though, if what I really meant comes still across, that there might well be more evil creatures in the part we don‘t know...

Appearance

„If ever somebody thought, a mullog had an ugly face, then this person hasn‘t seen a Swamphag yet. And he is indeed lucky, for otherwise he would have been haunted by the sight his entire life.“ This quote from Bumblebee Redapples, a hobbit merchant from the Silvermarshes, seems to represent  what  the Santharian population thinks about creatures, which few have come across, very well. A similar,  more detailed description is the report of Corash Shortsword, a travelling mercenary who passed the North Sarvonian Water Marches on his way to Inglis Haven.
„It was still far from sunset, but the day had been dull and the sun didn‘t penetrate the mist lying over the landscape. My path led me along the edge of the Water Marches, foul air forced me to wrap a cloth around my nose. I was in thought, when my horse suddenly balked and I was torn out of my daydreams. What I saw, made my blood freeze. Three creatures were sitting on a cluster of grass and reed in the midst a pool of caliginous water.  The faces were so ugly I wanted to look away, but on the other side I was fascinated as well. Wrinkles can look quite hoar, but these were totally out of proportion, the faces looked somehow distorted; eyes, dark and threatening looking, were of different size and not where they should be. Big, distant  ears, sticking out what should  probably be filthy hair, moved as if they had a life on its own. The mouths had no lips, but when they were opened, the most horrendous, sharp and pointed yellow teeth could be seen;  the noses - there were no noses, just two slits which opened and closed between eyes and mouth; the bodies were haggard; the arms long and with strange extensions like fins. At their necks were giant gills. I can‘t say, if they had breasts. One of these creatures had some bigger skin flaps where the breast should have been, if it was female, the other looked a bit more angular, I don‘t know. The weirdest thing however were their tails. If you didn‘t look closely, you could think they were fishtails though any elegance was missing, but when one of the three slipped back into the murky water, I saw that the tail was slit and had somehow a bony structure. That was all I noticed, for the beast swam towards me and that brought me back to reality - and I forced my horse to pass and bring me away quickly.“

Other reports confirm the  appearance described here, though not all use  such strong words to paint the ugliness. Most often they are resembling very worn-out people,  exhausted to death, not necessarily old, with big eyes in bony heads. Their skin colour intensifies the effect - it is of a greyish green-brown colour, the tail just darker than the upper torso. The bodies are covered with the sediments of the pools and murky water, which adds to the impression that they are just detestable.


Territory and Habitat.

  Moorcrocks do not live in open reed covered swampy areas, where the wind caresses the long stalks and the green of the plants is glisten  in the Injèrá‘s rays. Their territory are: the bottomless moors; the dark lakes, which are the perfect mirrors if there is no wind; the areas, where the ground spits out hot reddish water; where nobody can breath because of the poisonous air emerging from the Netherworld.

  There are not many of these areas in Southern Sarvonia or North of the Tandalas, at least no larger ones. The most extended region are the Water Marshes, the place, where the legendary Fá'áv'cál'âr was situated. The Southern part of the Silvermarshes in the province Nermeran are home to them as well, though those living there do not seem to be of as frightening an appearance as the ones in the Water Marches. However, whoever thinks he would be safe from these creatures if only he stays away from the Silvermarshes errs greatly. All over Santharia, apart from the Southern desert, are swamp-like regions, mostly in forests, not very large, but large enough to host a few Twilight Fouls. Especially the Northern Forests - like the  Hovel Frond Forest and  the Shaded Forest - are know to have a remarkable population, but so do many of the South Sarvonian Woods.



Mode of Living, (Society, Family..)

Not much is really known about their way of living. They have been observed hunting fish and birds, but should a normal beast of the forests come too near to the dark lakes to drink, a quick catch, a jump out of the water ends its life.  Eggs, water snakes and any other animals which make their home in the swamps are taken as a meal as well. Plants are part of their diet, but what they actually like and what not - no one has looked into this yet.

Swamphags are creatures of the dark and the mist. So none will be encountered during Sunblaze when the Injèrá is shining. At this time they seem to hide deep in the black waters. But when twilight is approaching or the day is dull and rainy, tatters of fog are hanging between the trees, then it is the time for the Moorcrock to go hunting. Whether they have regular sleeping places or change their environment to make a place more agreeable to live in - nobody knows nor was interested so far.

Normally they do not wear any clothes, however, occasionally they were seen with an old rag of - as is assumed -  a former human prey. The majority of researcher do not believe that they hunt people or lure them to deep water, however, common people just laugh about the naivety of those scholars and claim, that they know it better. (See lore)

Many people will surely deny, that these creatures of the swamps are sentient. But several reports assert this: They use weapons like crude staffs to hunt their prey very efficiently. One report about them speaks of the use of a primitive sling.  They have a language, though common people will deny that the whistles and noises they make can be regarded as constituting an intelligent communication. What nobody can disavow is, that they sing. Not that anyone would say, that these songs are in any way agreeable to listen to, but they do have a certain, strange melody which is irresistible. Though an occasional wanderer would start to shudder when he hears a swamphag sing, he can‘t stop to  listen. (See lore)

Nobody knows, if there are two genders -  Swamphag and Moorcrock, if there is something like a family, a pair of Twilight Fouls looking after their offspring. Occasionally smaller individuals are seen within a group, but every member of the group cares for them equally. This is a very remarkable feature, not fitting  the general picture of them - their care for the younger or smaller ones: they feed them, carry them on their back, hold them in their arms and defend them, should the need arise.

A strong winter is the time, when the Silvermarshes are relatively safe to travel. The swamps and lakes are frozen, apart from the places with hot springs. In this time the Twilight Fouls are hibernate deep on the ground of their lakes (like the Rivermaids, though nobody wants to compare these two creatures) .


Relation to other races

Humans hate them, elves turn away, dwarves ignore them, hobbits avoid them, even orcs refuse to count them amoung huntable prey, but there is one „race“ which has to live with them: the Mullogs of the Silvermarshes. There are still stories told about bloody fights between the two races which brought both to the brink of extinction. Today however, both seem to have a mutual agreement not to fight each other. Each ignores the other as much as possible, the Mullogs try to avoid the places where the Swamphags live, the Moorcrocks never go near the drier parts of the Marshes.

No researcher was ever keen enough to find something out about the relations between the Twilight Fouls and the Shadow Elves of the Water Marshes. It is likely that this subject will not be elucidated for some time to come.


Myth/Lore

There is definitely more lore than fact known about the Swamphags and what is believed commonly is the lore, not the fact. And all of these stories are told to frighten children away from dangerous swampy areas in the forest or to give  tavern visitors some chill before having to go home. All are about how evil and dangerous the Twilight Fouls  are - though here the cankered creatures are mostly Swamphags, it is always the female gender which is evil...

Their strangely beautiful songs have already been mentioned. These eerie tunes are able to frighten every brave soul. All who have heard them say, that despite the shudders running down their spine,  they could not stop listening, for the songs were beautiful in their own way. And after some time, the horrible begins: the mind drifts away , the listening person is daydreaming and finally the weaker characters - or the more sensible ones, or the sad ones with problems - all they start to go towards the sound as if   sleepwalking.

However it is not only the songs that deceive the travellers. Some report of  calls, or screams that sound like a child in need, or a young girl, some  even said, that they heard words like ‚mother‘, ‚father‘ and ‚help me‘. And these calls are so irresistible, that one could not help but to go towards these cries for help.

There is more lore - but this time it is not told too openly, for mostly young men are addressed here and not only the ears are deceived, but the eyes as well. Young men, often only saved by an unimaginative friend who accompanied them, narrate a story full of emotion and longing. There is most often a young girl involved, which those men see. First they follow the call, but if that is not enough, there is suddenly a womanlike figure out there, not too distant not to be seen clearly. And this woman is in danger of being swallowed by the moor - and she is always naked, her clothes already devoured by the swamp and she calls for help. Some of these young men claim, that they saw out there their girlfriend, wife or a beloved person. In one story  it is a father, trying to save his child, a child who had died the winter before..


Researchers

There are no known researchers who have worked exclusively on the Swamphags or want to be renown for being an expert in this realm.  Ansird of Necoma, the famous rivermaid expert, ruined his reputation as researcher when he showed interest in them. This is truely a subject everybody wants to avoid. However, further research is strongly recommended - these creatures must be freed from the shroud of lore suffocating them. Their songs need attention if for no reason other than their alleged ability to influence the human mind. Let us solve one of the last mysteries of our present world.






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History

No idea, if I can come up with an army which vanished in the Silvermarshes, maybe some Mullog history could be added here. Need to contact Theo.

Entries which could need a mentioning
Silvermarsches
mullogs
forests (hovel frond)
Water marshes



Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 02 December 2006, 04:43:51

Entries which could need a mentioning
Silvermarsches
mullogs
forests (hovel frond)
Water marshes



Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 02 December 2006, 04:56:36
(i just skimmed it over) What about the mullogs? surely someone thought of asking them about the Swamphags? They ought to have at the verry least a little story or myth to tell!


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 02 December 2006, 05:08:14
I don't think that the Mullogs tell anybody anything about themselves, at least it is not known at the Compendium so far :)


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 02 December 2006, 05:22:26
*Points at the Mullog entry* Some of them apparently do... we have information about them.


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 02 December 2006, 06:45:26
Well, Lumbe Bloggson didn't tell us a single myth , maybe roughly 2000 years are not enough to create myths? Or he was not interested in them? Or the human researchers were not interested in mullog myths? I'm not a mullog expert, maybe Theo wants to write one.


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Bard Judith on 02 December 2006, 13:28:20
Talia, I had only to read the first few words (the names) in the overview and the hair was already standing up on the back of my neck!  Amazingly evocative names and completely perfect for what many of us forget is not a nineteenth-century Victorian naturalist's taxonomic notebook but a MEDIEVAL bestiary...  "Moorcrocks".... (shudders)  Tolkien would approve.



Amazing concept, and your restraint as an authentic compendiumist makes them even more effective.  Brava!


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 02 December 2006, 18:02:00
Thanks Judy! :)

If you have the time - the rivermaids need your approval as well,  they are belonging to a race you described first! (And I was very glad not to have to think about gills and fins, but could point to the merfolk!)


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 02 December 2006, 18:06:49
Wow, the Merfolk is having quite an expansion wave isn't it? Soon they will have five different sub-races!


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 02 December 2006, 18:12:45
Yours are coming as well?


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 02 December 2006, 18:36:51
Yes, somewhere aropund new year, providing i finish my masterwork on scedule.


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Coren FrozenZephyr on 04 December 2006, 07:26:28
So many Talia entries when I am swamped with work - especially now that the semester is coming to an end and we all have to politely but fiercely compete for access to research material for dissertations...

Not fair at all! I want my day to have 72 hours!

PS: I just leaned this Wednesday that my contract essay got a first! Apparently one of the top three in the year! Alas it does not count towards the degree (only a 'practice' question)! I was actually very worried about what I might get on it - I only had time to research and start writing two days before it was due! I think I might not be so elated when I receive the Tort one back next week though...


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 08 December 2006, 07:59:32
Great to hear that Coren! I'm sure you will do well where it counts as well! I want to have a 72 hours day as well!


A longer comment would be appreciated ;)


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Coren FrozenZephyr on 09 December 2006, 03:53:53
Detalied comments to follow later this evening (i'm taking one off!)

Rumpole about to begin now (and must cook - nah, microwave today- as well)...


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Coren FrozenZephyr on 11 December 2006, 02:16:46
ATTENTION: Please DO NOT URI-CHECK this entry! I've already completed one on Friday - but haven't been able to post because I wasted all my online time 'allowance' this weekend trying rid my computer of this new INFURIATING edition of Internet Explorer. Finally I have the good old Explorer back!


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 11 December 2006, 02:52:16
Infuriating IE? I'm not a fan of IE, but have at least installed IE7 on my notebook and, well, it's pretty ok. At least it catches up now with other browsers in most aspects. But I've found nothing majorly infuriating yet. Definitely a major improvement to IE6.


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Coren FrozenZephyr on 11 December 2006, 06:24:44
Hello Talia! I would have preferred to colour my suggestions but I had to use CAPS due to scarcity of time. I hope you don't mind :(



Preliminary Remarks

To compile the essay on this creature living in swamps turned out to be quite difficult. Reliable sources were rare, most of the description below is based on assumptions, on prejudice and tradition taken for granted. The Compendium Archivist do not guarantee the accuracy of the following information. 

Overview

Swamphags, Moorcrocks or Twilight Fouls - all those names tell of one of the most ugly and possibly evil creatures OF SARVONIA (PERSONALLY I WOULD ELIMINATE THE 'KNOWN' PART, SAME MEANING COMES ACROSS THIS WAY). Living in moor and bottomless swamps, they are believed to be the personified disaster of any sentient being which dares to get near their realm when the night approaches.


Appearance

„If ever somebody thought, a mullog HAD an ugly face, then this person hasn‘t seen a Swamphag yet. And he IS INDEED lucky, for otherwise he would HAVE BEEN haunted by the sight his entire life.“ This quote from Bumblebee Redapples, a hobbit merchant from the Silvermarsches, seems to represent what the Santharian population thinks about creatures, which FEW HAVE COME ACROSS, VERY WELL. A similar,  more detailed description is the report of Corash Shortsword, a travelling mercenary who passed the North Sarvonian Water Marches on his way to Inglis HaveN:
„It was still far from sunset, but the day had been dull and the sun didn‘t penetrate the mist lying over the landscape. My path led me along the edge of the Water Marches, foul air forced me to wrap a cloth around my nose. I was in thought, when my horse suddenly balked and I was torn out of my daydreams. What I saw, MADE my blood freeze. Three creatures were sitting on a cluster of grass and reed in the midst a pool of caliginous water.  The faces were so ugly I wanted to look away, but on the other side I was fascinated as well. Wrinkles can look quite hoar, but these were totally out of proportion, the faces looked somehow distorted. THE eyes, dark and THREATENING, were of different size and not where they should BE. Big, distant??  ears, sticking out what should PROBABLY BE FILTHY hair, MOVING AS IF if IT had A LIFE OF ITS OWN. The mouths had no lips, but when they were opened, the most horrendous, (COMMA) sharp and pointed yellow teeth could be seen;  the noses - there were no noses, just two slits which opened and closed between eyes and mouth; the bodies were haggard; the arms long and with strange extensions like fins. At their necks were giant gills. I can‘t say, if they had breasts. One of THESE creatures had some bigger skin flaps where the breastS should have been, if it was female, the other looked a bit more angular, I don‘t know. The weirdest thing however were their tails. If you didn‘t look closely, you could think THEY were fishtails though any elegance was missing, but when one of the three slipped back into the murky water, I saw that the tail was slit and had somehow a bony structure. That was all I noticed, for the beast swam towards me and that brought me back to REALITY? - and I forced my horse to pass THEM BY and TAKE me away quickly.“

Other reports confirm the APPEARANCE DESCRIBED HERE, though not all are USE such strong words to paint the ugliness. Most often they are pictured as RESEMBLING? very worn-out people,  exhausted to NO ‘THE’ death, not necessarily old, with big eyes in bony heads. Their skin colour intensifies the effect - it is of a greyish green-brown colour, the tail just darker than the upper torso. The bodies are covered with the sediments of the pools and murky water, which adds to the impression NO COMMA that they are just detestable. – JUST A SIGHT FOR THE KREAN!


Territory and Habitat.

  Moorcrocks do not live in open reed covered swampy areas, where the wind caresses the long stalks and the green of the plants GLISTENS  in Injèrá‘s rays. Their territory are: the bottomless moors; the dark lakes, which are the perfect mirrors if there is no wind; the areas, where the ground spits out hot reddish water; where nobody can breath because of the poisonous air emerging from the Netherworld.

  There are not many of these areas in Southern Sarvonia or North of the Tandalas, at least no roomier ???????? ones. The most extended region are the Water Marshes, the place, where the legendary Fá'áv'cál'âr was situated. THE Southern part of the SILVERMARSHES in the province Nermeran are home to them as well, though THOSE living there DO NOT SEEM to be of AS frightening AN appearance AS THE ONES in the Water Marches. However, WHOEVER thinks he WOULD BE safe from these creatures if ONLY he stays away from the SILVERMARSHES errs greatly. All over Santharia, apart from the Southern desert, are SWAMP-LIKE regions, mostly in forests, not VERY LARGE, YET STILL LARGE enough to host a few Twilight Fouls. Especially the Northern FORESTS (HYPHEN)- LIKE the Hovel Frond and  the Shaded Forest – (HYPHEN)  are knowN to have a remarkable population, but SO DO most of the South Sarvonian WOODS.



Mode of Living, (Society, Family..)

Not much is really known about their way of living. They HAVE BEEN observed HUNTING fish and birds, but SHOULD a normal beast of the forests COME too near to the dark lakes to drink, a quick catch, a jump out of the water ends its life.  Eggs, water snakes and any other animals which make their home in the swamps are taken as a meal as well. Plants are part of their diet , but what they actually like and what not - no one has looked into this yet.

Swamphags are creatures of the dark and the mist. So NONE will be encountered during Sunblaze when the Injèrá is shining. At this TIME they seem to hide deep in the black waters. But when twilight is approaching or the day is dull and rainy, tatters of fog are hanging between the trees, then it is the time for the Moorcrock to go hunting. WHETHER THEY HAVE REGULAR SLEEPING PLACES OR CHANGE their environment to make a place more agreeable to live in - nobody knows nor was interested so far. 

Normally they DO NOT wear any clothes, however, occasionally they were seen with an old rag of - as is assumed -  a former human prey. The majority of RESEARCHERS DO NOT BELIEVE THAT that they hunt people or lure them TO deep water. HOWEVER, common people just laugh about the naivety of those scholars and claim, that they know it better. (See lore)

Many people will surely deny, that these creatures of the swamps are sentient. But several reports assert this: They use weapons like CRUDE staffs to hunt their prey very efficientLY. One report about them speaks of the use of a primitive sling.  They have a language, though common people will DENY THAT the whistles and noises they make can be regarded AS CONSTITUTING an intelligent communication. What nobody can disavow is, that they sing. Not that anyone would say, that these songs are in any way agreeable to listen to, but they do have a certain, strange MELODY which is irresistible. Though an occasional wanderer WOULD start to shudder when he hears a swamphag sing, he can‘t stop to  listen. (See lore)

Nobody knows, if there are two genders -  Swamphag and Moorcrock, if there is something like a family, a pair of Twilight Fouls looking after their offspring. Occasionally smaller individuals are seen within a group, but every member of the group cares for them equally. This is a very remarkable feature, not FITTING THE general picture of them - their care for the younger or smaller ones SENTENCE DOESN’T FLOW: they feed them; they carry them on their back; they  hold them in their arms; they defend them, should the need arise.

A strong winter is the time, when the Silvermarshes are relatively safe to travel. The swamps and lakes are frozen, apart from the places with hot springs. In this time the Twilight Fouls HIBERNATE deep on the ground of their lakes (like the Rivermaids, though nobody wants to compare THESE two creatures) .


History

No idea, if I can come up with an army which vanished in the Silvermarshes, maybe some Mullog history could be added here. Need to contact Theo.


Relation to other races

Humans hate them, elves turn away, dwarves ignore them, hobbits avoid them, even orcs refuse to count them AMONG huntable prey, but there is one „race“ which has to live with them: the Mullogs of the SilverMARSHES. There are still stories told about bloody fights between the two races which brought both to the brink of extinction. Today however, both seem to have a mutual AGREEMENT NOT TO fight each other. EACH ignoreS THE other as much as possible: (COLON) the Mullogs try to avoid the places where the Swamphags LIVE, the Moorcrocks never go near the drier parts of the Marshes.

No researcher was ever keen enough to find something out about the relations between the Twilight Fouls and the Shadow Elves of the Water Marshes. It is LIKELY that this subject will REMAIN obscured for SOME TIME TO COME. BETTER STILL: WILL NOT BE ELUCIDATED/CLARIFIED/ETC FOR SOME TIME TO COME.

Myth/Lore

There is definitely more lore than fact known about the Swamphags and what is believed commonly is the lore, not the fact. And all of these ARE stories told to frighten NO THE children away from dangerous swampy areas in the forest or to give NO THE tavern visitors some chill before having to go home (????? are telling, how evil ????) and dangerous the Swamphags are - and here they are mostly Swamphags, it is always the female gender which is evil...

Their strangely beautiful songs have already been mentioned. These EERIE tunes are able to frighten every brave soul. All who have heard them say, that DESPITE THE shudders RUNNING down their spine, they could not stop listening, for THE SONGS were beautiful in their own way. And after some time, the horrible begins: the mind drifts away , the listening person is daydreaming and finally the weaker characters - or the more sensible ones, or the sad ones with problems - all they start to go towards the sound as if SLEEPWALKING.

HOWEVER IT IS NOT ONLY THE SONGS THAT deceive the travellers. Some report of  calls, or screams THAT SOUND LIKE a child in need, or a young girl, some  even said, that they heard words like ‚mother‘, ‚father‘ and ‚help me‘. And these calls are so irresistible, that one could not help but to go towards these cries for help.

There is more lore - but this time it is not told too openly, for mostly young men are addressed here and not only the ears are deceived, but the eyes as well. Young men, often only saved by an unimaginative friend who accompanied them, narrate a story full of emotion and longing. There is most often a young girl involved, which those men see. First they follow the call, but if that is not enough, there is suddenly a womanlike figure out there, not too distant TO NOT be seen clearly. And this woman is in danger OF BEING swallowed by the moor - and she is always naked, her clothes already devoured by the swamp and she calls for help. Some of these young men CLAIM they saw out there their girlfriend, wife or a beloved person. In one story  it is a father, trying to save his child, a child WHO had died the winter before..




Researchers

There are no known researchers TO HAVE WORKED exclusively ON Swamphags or want to be renown for being an expert in this realm.  Ansird of Necoma, the famous rivermaid expert, ruined his reputation as researcher WHEN he showed interest in them. THIS TRULY IS A SUBJECT EVERYBODY WANTS TO AVOID. However, further research is strongly recommended - THESE creatures MUST be freed from the burden SHROUD?  of lore CHOCKING/SUFFOCATING them. Their songs need attention IF FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN their ALLEGED ABILITY to influence the human mind. Let US solve one of the last mysteries of our present world.


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A very suitable edition to the Silvermarshes!


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 12 December 2006, 00:15:34
Coren!!!! Thank you!  :hug:  :kiss: 




Last Edit: changed all Coren has corrected. Language should be ok now. Nobody (with time on their hands) has shown interest so far to add/comment something, so I put the blue arrow up. Art, please  decide for yourself on the only green marked part I was not sure about.

Art, if you are not a fan of IE, why don't you try out something else? You might like it!



Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 12 December 2006, 03:24:17
I use different browsers as well, mainly Opera and Firefox, and I like them.

To repeat it once more however: The general situation doesn't leave me any choice what browser to prefer for site optimization. We had a counter restart at September 2006 (eXTReMe Tracking integrated all known browsers now properly into their scripts), and these fresh statistics show that MSIE Core has lost ground, but still leads with 75.64% over Mozilla/Gecko Core with 20.77% and further neglectable browsers. It's not a matter of personal preference, but what the majority prefers.


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Wanderer on 13 December 2006, 21:30:08
i think the in the first paragraph:
  ugly and possibly evil - known - creatures

and a question: How do they move to closed off pools?


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 13 December 2006, 21:40:33
Well, so far we ARE the researchers - my char is a Shendar, Alysse with speciality Kuglimz and the North is a Kuglimz woman, Judy IS our masterbard and Artimidor IS our wise sage in new Santhala. I'm even thinking about creating another alter ego for me for my Religion-based entries, for Talia can surely not know all about demons. In any case, you as  somebody who submits entries to the compendium ARE a mediaval researcher, YOU are submitting details of this world - you might have collected old scripts in the compendium and wrote about them, not having been in the field, but everything is in char.


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Wanderer on 13 December 2006, 21:53:28
Sorry, what you said did occur to me so i already edited my post and put in some questions. :(


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 14 December 2006, 01:32:27
Although our Characters and fields of Expertise do not always match, for i am Helcrani, and a trained Fire mage, yet i am a Nybelmar developer.... ( wich explains why i get a lot of mail each week ;).. those reports just keep on coming..)


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 14 December 2006, 03:45:19
@ Miraran: Once you write up your person‘s entry, you should include why you are so interested in North-Western-Nybelmar and where you have your information from - or you think about a different person for the dev-board!

@Wanderer:

Thought about that as well, but I don‘t think, I will include an eventual answer in the entry above, because this is a question normal people will not ask.

Common believe might be:
 - Ava has dreamed it like this or
 - Jeyriall has created the world this way, they have  been always there.

From the developers point of view:
- I place it there - they have been there already from the beginning, we don‘t have an evolution
- they could have spread to many places through flooding in the last 10000 years ( like the one which killed great parts of the big forest which is now the Quallian and the Zeiphyrian forest)
- they can actually move short distances from one pool to the next, but that was never observed.
- swamp areas were much more spread in former times.


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 14 December 2006, 04:01:24
Phew.. a Person entry? :P I try not to think about that m'Lady, as i'm sure one or two years will pass untill i find such an entry appropriate..


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 14 December 2006, 04:48:12
I didn't say that you should do it now - but freely translated: "good things take some time" - you could already place the idea in your head. You don't have to wait nearly five years as I did ;)


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 14 December 2006, 05:02:55
:P taking into account the area most likely to be my birthground has only been developen inCoren's head, i'm in for a wait :)... we all know how long it can take for information to get OUT of Coren, even while it seems to go IN rather quickly...


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Coren FrozenZephyr on 15 December 2006, 07:40:16
:: whistles a tune, gazing at the clouds, pretending not to have heard::

:: slyly pushes Mira off a cliff ::


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 15 December 2006, 07:43:11
Coren, he is a Helcrani, the Silvermarshes are not far away....


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 20 January 2007, 01:53:56
Guess all three tribe entries are ready for the update then as they are marked by now - right, Talia? - Should we put them all under Merfolk in the tribes list as the main category?  :huh:


Title: Re: Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 20 January 2007, 07:39:34
Yes, please.

There might be the one or other thing still which I didn't see and needs fixing , please correct this while preparing it.