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Santharian World Development => Races, Tribes and Clans => Topic started by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 10 May 2008, 13:18:40



Title: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 10 May 2008, 13:18:40
The Eyelian culture is widely regarded as a culture that has retained much of it's unique identity, even while bending and adapting to new lands. And even though it was thousands of years ago the Eyelians made their pilgrimage from parts unknown, they are still regarded as "foreigners" and face many cultural barriers, even in this age of unification. But the ways the Eyelians have integrated and blended with the rest of the Kingdom of Santharia are numerous. No longer do the majority of Eyelian cities communicate with the Ha’hep. They now communicate the same as any Proudman or Averonnian, be that by courier or Wynd Rider.  From humble hunter beginnings, the Eyelians have developed into a sophisticated, cosmopolitan people with a strong link to their roots and the natural world.
   The Eyelians are noted for this amazing understanding of nature, exemplified by the "familiars" they share a bond with. (Please note: Familiars are simply animals that have been tamed by Eyelians, not the mysterious spirit guides, referenced in the Eyelian entry. Also note the Eyelian word for “familiar is “Bo’en”, and they shall be referred to as such for the rest of the entry.)  Families look upon their bo’ens not as pets, but as members of the family (albeit with wings, fur or claws). Bo’ens can generally look after themselves, and some (the larger predators) will leave the city limits to find food. Also the larger animals rarely stay with the Eyelians. In cities with high concentrations of Eyelians, any Tame can rent out a stable space for relatively cheap. These specially designed stables will often be strongly reinforced, so the beasts will not mingle or escape.
These bo’ens are extremely important to the Tamers- evidenced by the observation that some Eyelians even possess a remarkable resemblance to their natural brethren. Hence, the alertness and tufty hair common to those with birds and the unnatural strength to the Tamers who have tamed a larger animal, like a bear. This could, of course, only be a mix of coincidence and exaggeration, but to the Eyelians, it is a commonly accepted "Old Wives’ Tale".
   

Family Structures. Eyelian hierarchy seems based on nature, with the Patriarch and the Matriarch commanding equal respect, much as their counter-parts in a wolf pack would.- they share the Patriarch/Matriarch dynamic with wolves, and resemble herd animals like horses, in the way that their society shows little discrimination, and much equality. The mother and father, for instance, are held as equals, a twist rarely seen in modern Sarvonia. For instance, the Shendar are inclined to be matriarchal, while the Erephonians are a male-dominated society.
Another difference between Sarvonian and Eyelian society is that Eyelian society has a great deal more equality- there are no serfs and vassals, all men and women are equal. This is most likely an extension of family life. As in Eyelian communities, everyone in an Eyelian "nest" watches out for one another. Everyone, from the smallest cub (Eyelian vernacular for child) to the oldest owl (a common epitaph for the wise elders) finds a safe place to lay their heads at home, surrounded by a multitude of loving guardians, from bo’ens to uncles.
   Eyelian families tend to be composed of the aforementioned parents, approximately two to four children, as well as the man's family. In the woman's family, if there are no men in their prime left to support the family, the eldest remain in charge, and the center of the family.
  One may wonder why the new couple suddenly "takes charge" of the family. One wonders this, because one is not an Eyelian. To the Eyelian, this all makes perfect sense. It is the responsibility of the young in their prime to get married, and carry on their family's line. It is then the role of the couple to also take charge of the family's finances and well-being. At that point, it is the elders' job to step aside as the Patriarch and Matriarch, and fill in a new family role. Of course, no Eyelian would seek marriage without parental consent, so dissent from these three rules is nigh unheard of.
It is the role of these parents to support the very large Eyelian families.  In older, traditional settlements, the parents are the hunters and gatherers, while in modern Eyelian homes, the parents are the primary workers, with live-in uncles and grandparents providing only a supplemental income. However, everyone in an Eyelian family is expected to help in some way. And with a family as big as an Eyelian’s, tasks tend to get done!
The uncles and aunts often bring in supplementary income, and are expected to help guard the homestead in traditional communities. This additional income is often found in the form of sustenance farming, small-game hunting, or perhaps free-lance work in certain crafts. Amantry is also a popular choice. Not all of the work the relatives do is meant to bring in income- uncles often act as “Wa’ahdens”, or sentinels.  The task of sentinel is one extremely important to traditional Eyelian communities. These communities tend to be in isolated, rural, areas, without a battalion of soldiers within calling distance. Attacks can come from any direction. The coast brings pirates, the roads brigands, and the woods bring hungry wolves and giant rats.
Another important task done by the uncles and auntswhich brings in no immediate income is teaching the children.As the parents are often away at work, or busy rearing the children in other ways, the task of teaching the young specific crafts often falls to the aunts and uncles. This teaching is often done as the aunts and uncles work. If there are no uncles or aunts in the family, then this job falls to the Elders.
Any Eyelian quickly becomes a “ju’ek’atra’ad”, an Eyelian epitaph for one who holds a basic smattering of many skills, yet has mastered none. These children will of course learn their parents’ crafts, as will a child in any culture. But in an Eyelian family, there are many crafts to be learned. For instance, many young girls pick up Amantry from their aunts, and boys learn the tasks of a sentinel from their uncles. As far as actual chores go, however, the children tend to be given simpler jobs, like cleaning, and chasing birds from the fields.
While the elder’s also aid in the teaching of children, the do so on a much larger scale. The old act as “sharers of wisdom for the whole family”, imparting valuable advice, and solving conflicts between families, and within them. In an Eyelian community, the elders are highly valued, both as teachers and mediators.
   "Please note that this family dynamic is not set in stone. For instance, the elders live with the male child who has married first. This means that his brothers will not have an elder living in their family. Also, due to the fact that the daughter's family does not move with her, there are families where the financial responsibility sits on the the unmarried brothers, and very rarely, the unmarried sisters. However, there is tremendous pressure in Eyelian society to marry young, so the only discrepensy commonly seen is the lack of an in-house elder. However, this is not a tremendous disadvantage, as closely related families will often live in close proximity, forming an almost clan-like bond."
    Keep in mind, traditional and cosmopolitan families are drastically different. Traditional families tend to be part of a much greater whole, with the “entire pack raising the cub” as it were, while modern families are more often separated from other Eyelians. However, in cities with large Eyelian populations, the families often band together in ethnic neighborhoods. These „Tomo’odons“, or „whole worlds“, are very close-knit, and often feature beautiful parks and landscaping. They also feature unique "stables", also called "Tomobo’ens". These stables are homes for the neighborhood's larger bo’ens. For instance, in an average Tomobo’en, one may find Gryphs, wolves, or even Tagers. In non-Eyelian cities, these areas are harshly guarded, mainly from the villagers' fears. The proximity to these dangerous creatures can indeed be a cause for fright. However, these Tomobo’ens are becoming less common. The urbane Eyelian has adopted more socially acceptable bo’ens for the purpose of gaining trust, but mostly for convince. These bo’ens often include completely mundane animals, like dogs and cats.
Eyelian families tend to follow a similar schedule. Meals tend to be very important, group, affairs. Over a dinner of roasted Taenish and Kellian, the elders share stories, often in the language of the beasts. These stories are not "stories" as we know them- due to the primitive nature of the beast-tongue, they are more a series of concepts presented in a logical order. For instance, the tale of a great hunt would begin with the concept of hunger, moving to the concept of desire, the concept of excitement, and the concept of achievement. While a large Eyelian family growling, clucking, snarling, and laughing may seem strange, it perhaps grows stranger as a wolf pads near, a pair of stormcrows settles in the rafters, and four tiny lizards scamper to their child masters. But this is an average Eyelian meal, and it happens three times a day.

Education and Gender-Related Occupations. Eyelian children are taught differently depending on where they live. In traditional communities, the teaching is lorded over by a select group of elders, imparting the wisdom of the natural world, coupled with the task of learning a trade. Eyelian children often pick their craft early in life (around age 12 or so), and devote their lives to it. Eyelings (Eyelian children, sometimes affectionately known as „cubs“ or „jsals“) who have a fondness for the earth learn which crops grow best in which season, and what plants are too finicky for the native soil. These cubs are often taken to the fields, and participate in the harvest as much as possible. They will spread seed, till the earth, and scare away the crows. The latter job is a favorite among young cubs, who often favor a roar or howl to frighten birds away. Eyelians who live near the coast can have very different jobs as farmers. These land-keepers will often harvest not grain and vegetable, but salt from the ocean itself. This is a popular choice for cubs in certain communities, as it grants the young ones a chance to sneak away and play in the ocean’s surf and waves.
Cubs who show a talent for leadership are encouraged to lead the “gangs” young Eyelians form. The word gang does not carry the negative connotation it does in many other cultures. In the Eyelian tounge, “tomo’ajsal” is the word for gang, and actually means something approximate to “world of the young”. The members of individual tomo’ajsals frequently engage each other in play combat, shows of strength and enurance, and frequent footraces. 
Some Eyelings even strive to be counted among the beast-masters, and those who show a prodigious talent for the beast-tongue are taken in by the beast-masters of the tribe. The beast-masters will teach the young Eyelians the nuances of the beast tounge, for instance, how body language can change the meaning of individual grunts, and how certain chirps will have different meanings to different birds. Becoming a beast-master is a long journey, often requiring frequent forays into the forest, but the rewards can be great.
By the age of sixteen, an Eyelian is prepared for his line of work, and may even be thinking about finding himself a wife, and starting his own pack. However, Eyelians rarely have children until at least age 18. The two years in between are used for the parents of the future parents to teach the art of child-rearing to the new couple.
These traditions are similar in urban areas. However, there tend to be more opportunities for these children. Every year, it seems, less city-cubs want to leave town for the old ways, and more want to strike it rich as merchants.


Possessions. Quantity of material possessions is not of great importance to Eyelians, but every item an Eyelian owns holds special importance to him or her. These items tend to be things like jewelry, weapons, and trinkets. Jewelry is perhaps the most common possession. Many Eyelians own many rings, necklaces, and bracelets, each celebrating different occasions. These items are commonly given as gifts on birthdays, and as tokens between young lovers. Weapons are also popular gifts, and are handed down from father to son. One spear haft may be as many as four generations old, the spearhead replaced whenever needed. Often, the arrow used for a hunter's first kill is saved, and placed in a spot of honor in the Eyelian home. All other tools and valuables, like plows and lumbar axes are owned by the community. Generosity is a chief virtue for Eyelians, or as they say it „One wolf’s kill is the whole pack’s meal“.

Freedom. Freedom is an integral part of Eyelian society, especially to the Bear clan. While some cultures prefer rigidity and daily schedules, Eyelian's prefer to simply know when they must work, and spend the rest of the time in spontaneous leisure activities. The bear tribe, as the most creative of the three places great importance on this leisure time, and has used it to compose some of the greatest pieces of artwork seen in Southern Sarvonia. All Eyelians are free to pick their own trade, and the concept of a „family-owned business“ is a completely foreign one.
Eyelians enjoy a great deal of leisure time, as chores are widely split up. This time is often spent learning songs and drum tattoos (pre-composed beats or rhythms), or seeking an animal to call friend and bo’en.

Consequences/Advantages. Eyelian culture is well preserved, through their strong oral tradition, and ancient family ties. This is what has saved Eyelians from losing their beliefs and traditions as they have become increasingly cosmopolitan, to the point of assimilation in some areas.
The strong family ethic is one that allows every Eyelian to sleep soundly, as uncles and aunts stand guard, and a veritable army of animals lies in wait for predators. The gratitude owed to these animals is so great that the beast has been placed on a pedestal in Eyelian culture, creating a healthy respect for Caelereth and all its inhabitants.
A combination of many factors, such as plentiful hunting, large families to help spread the work around, and no great desire for materialistic wealth, has allowed Eyelians to produce some of the greatest artists, philosophers, and musicians in all Sarvonia. It seems these factors are ones that could and should be emulated by other cultures, not only for the sake of saving tradition, but for the sake of the natural world.

A note on the researchers of the Eyelian people:
The Eyelians are blessed and cursed by their exotic nature- it has brought much attention (and scrutiny!) to these people. Some of the most famous researchers of the Eyelian Tamers are:
The noted author Capher, one of the most famous Santharian personalities. it is said that beyond being a strong and sturdy man who has journeyed far and wide across Sarvonia to learn more about not only the Eyelians, but several other tribes as well, he is the last of the shape-shifting dragons.
Lady Tiaa, a scholar most widely known for her studies of her Native Aeruillin;
Nsikigan Rocksilk Yourth, a young Eyelian who has made it his life's goal to spread knowledge of his people,
and Lady Talia, a strong Shendar woman known as one of the prime contributors to the Santharian Compendium, and a capable mentor to both Tiaa and Nsiki.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- Families, Education, Freedom+Privaleges
Post by: Rookie Brownbark on 11 May 2008, 18:00:21
Commenty Goodness arrives!


The Eyelians are a folk with a culture which is better preserved than almost any other tribe of human. As the natural world around them remains consistent, so do the Tamers. But as Nature can be quick to change, so too can the Eyelians. How else to explain their rapid transition from forest-dwelling hunters and farmers to a cosmopolitan people still in touch with their millennia-old traditions? 
   Every aspect of Eyelian culture is touched by nature, and the „familiars“Eyelians often possess. Families look upon the creatures not as pets, but as sons to the parents and uncles to the children. Houses are designed specifically with certain beasts in mind, and some Eyelians even possess a remarkable resemblance to their natural brethren.  Now you've got me thinking of furry grey human werewolf types. :lol:  Maybe an example or two?
   Even Eyelian hierarchy seems based on nature, with the Patriarch acting as the „Alpha Male“, and the mother commanding just as much respect. Everyone in an Eyelian „pack“ watches out for one another, and all members of the Eyelian aerie, from smallest cub, to oldest owl, find a safe place to lay their heads at home, surrounded by a multitude of loving guardians, from uncles to grandmothers.
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Family Structures. Eyelian families resemble wolf packs in many ways. The mother and father are held as equals, in a twist not seen in any other culture. For instance, the Shendar are matriacarchal, while the Erephonians are a man-dominated society. Saying that they are the only culture who is equal seems a little...off I think.  Maybe one of the few cultures who work like this?  For example Brownies are fairly equal this way, although they don't acknowledge it so formally , and I'm sure they cannot be the only one.
   It is the role of these Alpha parents to support the very large Eyelian families. In older, traditional settlements, the parents are the hunters and gatherers, while in modern Eyelian homes, the parents are the primary workers, with live-in uncles and grandparents providing only a supplemental income, and that only rarely. However, everyone in an Eyelian family is expected to help in some way. And with a family as big as an Eyelian’s, tasks tend to get done!
   Eyelian families tend to be composed of the aforementioned parents, approximately two to four children, as well as any unmarried brothers of the father or mother, what about sisters?  and the grandparents. Children tend to be given simpler jobs, like cleaning, and chasing birds from the fields. The uncles and aunts often bring in supplementary income, and are expected to help guard the homestead in traditional communities. The eldest members of the families tend to be too old to work. They instead act as peacekeepers and wisdom-bringers for the younger Eyelians.
   Keep in mind, traditional and cosmopolitan families are drastically different. Traditional families tend to be part of a much greater whole, with the „entire pack raising the cub“as it were, while modern families are more often separated from other Eyelians. However, in cities with large Eyelian populations, the families often band together in ethnic neighborhoods. These „Tomo’odons“, or „whole worlds“, are very close-knit, and often feature beautiful parks and landscaping.  Nice :)
   Eyelian families tend to follow a similar schedule. Meals tend to be very important, group, affairs. Over a dinner of roasted Taenish and Kellian, the elders share stories, often in the language of the beasts. While a large Eyelian family growling, clucking, snarling, and laughing may seem strange, it perhaps grows stranger as a wolf pads near, a pair of stormcrows settles in the rafters, and four tiny lizards scamper to their child masters. But this is an average Eyelian meal, and it happens three times a day.
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Education and Gender-Related Occupations. Eyelian children are taught differently depending on where they live. In traditional communities, the teaching is lorded over by a select group of elders, imparting the wisdom of the natural world, coupled with the task of learning a trade. Eyelian children often pick their craft early in life (around age 12 or so), and devote their lives to it. Eyelings (Eyelian children, sometimes affectionately known as „cubs“ or „jsals“) who have a fondness for the earth learn which crops grow best in which season, and what plants are too finicky for the native soil. Others who show a talent for leadership are encouraged to lead their band of friends, and are taught the ways of the chief. Some Eyelings even strive to be counted among the beastmasters, and those who show a prodigious talent for the beast-tongue are taken in by the beast-masters of the tribe. By the age of sixteen, an Eyelian is prepared for his line of work, and may even be thinking about finding himself a wife, and starting his own pack.
These traditions are similar in urban areas. However, there tend to be more opportunities for these children. Every year, it seems, less city-cubs want to leave town for the old ways, and more want to strike it rich as merchants.

Possessions. Quantity of material possessions is not of great importance to Eyelians, but every item an Eyelian owns holds special importance to him or her. These items tend to be things like jewelry, weapons, and trinkets. All other tools and valuables, like plows and lumbar axes are owned by the community. Generosity is a chief virtue for Eyelians, or as they say it „One wolf’s kill is the whole pack’s meal“.

Freedom. Freedom is an integral part of Eyelian society, especially to the Bear clan. All Eyelians are free to pick their own trade, and the concept of a „family-owned business“ is a completely foreign one.
Eyelians enjoy a great deal of leisure time, as chores are widely split up. This time is often spent learning songs and drum tattoos, or seeking an animal to call friend and familiar.

Consequences/Advantages. Eyelian culture is well preserved, through their strong oral tradition, and ancient family ties. This is what has saved Eyelians from losing their beliefs and traditions as they have been continually cosmopolitized, to the point of assimilation in some areas.
The strong family ethic is one that allows every Eyelian to sleep soundly, as uncles and aunts stand guard, and a veritable army of animals lies in wait for predators. The gratitude owed to these animals is so great that the beast has been placed on a pedestal in Eyelian culture, creating a healthy respect for Caelereth and all its inhabitants.
The lack of many chores has allowed Eyelians to produce some of the greatest artists, philosophers, and musicians in all Sarvonia. It seems these factors are ones that could and should be emulated by other cultures, not only for the sake of saving tradition, but for the sake of the natural world.

Some fascinating ideas here, Nsikigan. Eyelians are really quite lovely people. One thing I noticed is that you seem to refer to the ways of the wolf clan more than others - the families are "packs"  the children "cubs".  I'm not sure if this is intentional though :P.

Hope that helps you, and good luck!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- Families, Education, Freedom+Privaleges
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 12 May 2008, 00:55:58
Thank you very much Rookie!
The close association with wolves was intentional, as they are in many ways the "central" Eyelian clan. However, I have tried to reference others, eg. the house=Aerie, the children, I was thinking bear cubs.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- Done w/ Shendar culture as a template
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 29 May 2008, 07:59:10
A small bump, as this will be used in my Vezash entry, if it gets approved. Also, I would like Talia's comments, as I used her entry as a template.
Thank you!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- Done w/ Shendar culture as a template
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 29 May 2008, 21:24:14
Ermm, you should send me a PM or better bellring if you wish a comment. I do not read every post anymore ;)
I have to look over Smee's submissions first (and Rookies Rat Brownies, I promised), but then I will have a look at yours.

Btw, what I used was not a template, just an agglomeration of what came to my mind. Perhaps somebody should do a proper template ;)

Is update this week or next?


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- Done w/ Shendar culture as a template
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 29 May 2008, 21:33:03
This week, Talia.
And a proper template would be nice, but I think your entry served fairly well. I'll probably end up condencing a few of my entries, and mabye I'll design a template for culture based off that.
Thanks for the time, Tal!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- Done w/ Shendar culture as a template
Post by: Smee on 31 May 2008, 21:11:22
Hey Nsikigan,

I'll be looking through this, having no knowledge of the Eyelains, and therefore will be hoping to learn from this entry. The comments I'll be making will reflect this. Sometimes I simply won't understand, which might indicate some clarification is needed, or that I'm just dumb ;)

Lets see how we do...

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The Eyelians are a folk with a culture which is better preserved than almost any other tribe of human.

This starting sentence is a little clunky. And at the start of any piece of writing, we really want it to capture the reader and not give them any problems before they've even got into it.

I suggest stripping out some words, and making it more concise, and less of a tongue twister. Something like ... "The Eyelians's culture is better preserved than almost any other human tribe."

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As the natural world around them remains consistent, so do the Tamers. But as Nature can be quick to change, so too can the Eyelians.

Again, abit of a tongue twister. And as this is the first mention of 'Tamers' in this entry, I would suggest you make it 'Eyelian Tamers' in this instance, so newbs like me know what you mean. (I had never heard of Tamers).

Ok... how to re-arrange this sentence. Following on from the first sentence, we don't really need to name them again. It was just said. So perhaps something like... "Their very way of life, so in tune with the land around them, mimicks perfectly the inherent stablity and capability for change that nature displays." 

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Every aspect of Eyelian culture is touched by nature, and the „familiars“Eyelians often possess.

Ok - we're talking about the familiars now, which I perceive from reading the rest of this entry, as being perhaps the most important link to nature that sets the Tamers apart from other human tribes. This paragraph goes into some detail about the familiars, so lets bring them to start, and therefore the focus, of the sentence. I'm not sure the word 'posses' gives the right impression. As you say in the next sentence, they aren't pets that are owned...

"Perhaps the biggest demonstration of the Eyelian's connection with nature, is the link they form with their 'familiars'."

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Families look upon the creatures not as pets, but as sons to the parents and uncles to the children
 

I'm not sure, are these animals never female then? Or could you just say, "...look upon the creatures not as pets, but as part of the family."

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Everyone in an Eyelian „pack“ watches out for one another, and all members of the Eyelian aerie, from smallest cub, to oldest owl, find a safe place to lay their heads at home, surrounded by a multitude of loving guardians, from uncles to grandmothers.

Woah.. this confused me. So many different animal terms! How is a pack different from an aerie. Is an aerie a group of packs? Or another word for a pack? Perhaps expand on this part, explaining the terms. e.g. "From the smallest child, known as cubs. To the oldest grandmothers known as owls as a mark of respect for their wisdom..."  or something like that. Help me understand all these terms rather than just throwing them out. Once you've explained them at the beginning, you don't need to mention 'children' again later on, just call them cubs.

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while the Erephonians are a man-dominated society

I think 'male-dominated' sounds a little better. Nice links to other cultures though :)

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It is the role of these Alpha parents to support the very large Eyelian families. In older, traditional settlements, the parents are the hunters and gatherers, while in modern Eyelian homes, the parents are the primary workers, with live-in uncles and grandparents providing only a supplemental income, and that only rarely. However, everyone in an Eyelian family is expected to help in some way. And with a family as big as an Eyelian’s, tasks tend to get done!

Eyelian families tend to be composed of the aforementioned parents, approximately two to four children, as well as any unmarried brothers of the father or mother, and the grandparents. Sisters tend to live with their original family. Children tend to be given simpler jobs, like cleaning, and chasing birds from the fields. The uncles and aunts often bring in supplementary income, and are expected to help guard the homestead in traditional communities. The eldest members of the families tend to be too old to work. They instead act as peacekeepers and wisdom-bringers for the younger Eyelians.

I suggest switching these two paragraphs around. The latter explains the former, and makes more sense. I was confused reading the first paragraph until I had read the second.

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ep in mind, traditional and cosmopolitan families are drastically different. Traditional families tend to be part of a much greater whole, with the „entire pack raising the cub“as it were, while modern families are more often separated from other Eyelians. However, in cities with large Eyelian populations, the families often band together in ethnic neighborhoods. These „Tomo’odons“, or „whole worlds“, are very close-knit, and often feature beautiful parks and landscaping.

I like this part. The idea of the Tomo'odons is nice.

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Eyelian families tend to follow a similar schedule. Meals tend to be very important, group, affairs. Over a dinner of roasted Taenish and Kellian, the elders share stories, often in the language of the beasts. While a large Eyelian family growling, clucking, snarling, and laughing may seem strange, it perhaps grows stranger as a wolf pads near, a pair of stormcrows settles in the rafters, and four tiny lizards scamper to their child masters. But this is an average Eyelian meal, and it happens three times a day.

Haha, this made me smile. A lovely image. :) Note the quick typo in yellow.

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Others who show a talent for leadership are encouraged to lead their band of friends, and are taught the ways of the chief.

Ooh, this is interesting. But 'lead' their friends in what? Are there cubs in each profession who show themselves to be leaders, and become like the 'head boy' of the young famers perhaps? How can they lead, if they don't have a profession? I'm a little confused.

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This time is often spent learning songs and drum tattoos


What are drum tattoos? Is this explained in some other entry and will be linked?

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This is what has saved Eyelians from losing their beliefs and traditions as they have been continually cosmopolitized, to the point of assimilation in some areas.

I'm not sure 'cosmopolitized' is a word. And it should be an 's' instead of a 'z' if it were. There's only 'cosmopolitan', so a slight rewording to make this fit...

"...as they continually become more cosmopolitan, to the..."

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The lack of many chores has allowed Eyelians to produce some of the greatest artists, philosophers, and musicians in all Sarvonia. It seems these factors are ones that could and should be emulated by other cultures, not only for the sake of saving tradition, but for the sake of the natural world.

Oooh, a hippy movement in Santharia... hahaha. Nice.

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They sound a fascinating people, Nsikigan. And you have a lot of ideas for them. I look forward to further development.

Happy Dreamin' :)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- Done w/ Shendar culture as a template
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 02 June 2008, 01:04:22
Thank you very much, Smee. Your comments have now been fully integrated in orange.
Hopefully this gets up by the time the week's update is finished.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- Done w/ Shendar culture as a template
Post by: Azhira Styralias on 10 June 2008, 02:49:42
The Eyelian's culture is perhaps better preserved then any other human tribe. (This is a big statement to make..perhaps say that the Eyelian culture is still very much in tune with its past) Much like the natural world, the Eyelian Tamers change with the season, but always retain  the same rocks and trees. (Hrm..I don't quite follow that analogy.) How else to explain their rapid transition from forest-dwelling hunters and farmers to a cosmopolitan people still in touch with their millennia-old traditions?
   
The Eyelians are noted for thier amazing link to nature, exemplified by the "famillers" they share a bond with.  Families look upon the creatures (<- their familiars) not as pets, but as members of the family (albiet with wings, fur or claws). Houses are designed specifically with certain beasts in mind (<- that is never really explained), and some Eyelians even possess a remarkable resemblance to their natural brethren. Hence, the alertness and tufty hair common to those with birds, and the unnatural strength to the Tamers who have tamed a larger animal, like a bear. (Is this truly a fact or rumor/myth told by outsiders? Appearance I can understand, but strength?)
   
Even Eyelian hierarchy seems based on nature, with the Patriarch acting as the „Alpha Male“, and the mother commanding just as much respect. Everyone in an Eyelian "nest" watches out for one another. Everyone, from the smallest cub (Eyelian vernacular for child) to the oldest owl (a common epitaph for the wise elders) find a safe place to lay their heads at home, surrounded by a multitude of loving gaurdians, from fammilers to uncles.

Family Structures. Eyelian families resemble wolf packs in many ways. The mother and father are held as equals, in a twist rarely seen in modern Sarvonia. For instance, the Shendar are matriacarchal, while the Erephonians are a male-dominated society. (Perhaps tell the difference between the structures of different tribes rather than simply name them.)
   
Eyelian families tend to be composed of the aforementioned parents, approximately two to four children, as well as any unmarried brothers of the father or mother, and the grandparents. Sisters tend to live with their original family. Children tend to be given simpler jobs, like cleaning, and chasing birds from the fields. The uncles and aunts often bring in supplementary income (<- How so?), and are expected to help guard the homestead in traditional communities. The eldest members of the families tend to be too old to work. They instead act as peacekeepers and wisdom-bringers for the younger Eyelians. (I think it would be nice if a bit more detail was given for each of the family members - how do they protect the community? Protect from what? How else are children used or supported?)
       
It is the role of these Alpha parents to support the very large Eyelian families. In older, traditional settlements, the parents are the hunters and gatherers, while in modern Eyelian homes, the parents are the primary workers, with live-in uncles and grandparents providing only a supplemental income, and that only rarely. However, everyone in an Eyelian family is expected to help in some way. And with a family as big as an Eyelian’s, tasks tend to get done!
   
Keep in mind, traditional and cosmopolitan families are drastically different. Traditional families tend to be part of a much greater whole, with the „entire pack raising the cub“as it were, while modern families are more often separated from other Eyelians. However, in cities with large Eyelian populations, the families often band together in ethnic neighborhoods. These „Tomo’odons“, or „whole worlds“, are very close-knit, and often feature beautiful parks and landscaping. (How do familiars live and cope within a city? Are the Eyelian homes specially built within a city? What do the neighbors think?)
   
Eyelian families tend to follow a similar schedule. Meals tend to be very important, group, affairs. Over a dinner of roasted Taenish and Kellian, the elders share stories, often in the language of the beasts. While a large Eyelian family growling, clucking, snarling, and laughing may seem strange, it perhaps grows stranger as  a wolf pads near, a pair of stormcrows settles in the rafters, and four tiny lizards scamper to their child masters. But this is an average Eyelian meal, and it happens three times a day.

Education and Gender-Related Occupations. Eyelian children are taught differently depending on where they live. In traditional communities, the teaching is lorded over by a select group of elders, imparting the wisdom of the natural world, coupled with the task of learning a trade. Eyelian children often pick their craft early in life (around age 12 or so), and devote their lives to it. Eyelings (Eyelian children, sometimes affectionately known as „cubs“ or „jsals“) who have a fondness for the earth learn which crops grow best in which season, and what plants are too finicky for the native soil. Others who show a talent for leadership are encouraged to lead their band of friends, much as a young orc may be the head of a gang of his childhood friends, or a child of another human tribe may grow to be respected by his own group, deciding what activities of wonderlust his friends will embark on that day. and are taught the ways of the chief. Some Eyelings even strive to be counted among the beastmasters, and those who show a prodigious talent for the beast-tongue are taken in by the beast-masters of the tribe. By the age of sixteen, an Eyelian is prepared for his line of work, and may even be thinking about finding himself a wife, and starting his own pack.
These traditions are similar in urban areas. However, there tend to be more opportunities for these children. Every year, it seems, less city-cubs want to leave town for the old ways, and more want to strike it rich as merchants.
(Perhaps cover each area of skill in a separate and paragraph and explain. You can tell alot more with this section I think.)

Possessions. Quantity of material possessions is not of great importance to Eyelians, but every item an Eyelian owns holds special importance to him or her. These items tend to be things like jewelry, weapons, and trinkets. All other tools and valuables, like plows and lumbar axes are owned by the community. Generosity is a chief virtue for Eyelians, or as they say it „One wolf’s kill is the whole pack’s meal“. (Examples? How would a weapon be important to an average elder? Or jewelry to a teenage girl?)

Freedom. Freedom is an integral part of Eyelian society, especially to the Bear clan. (How?) All Eyelians are free to pick their own trade, and the concept of a „family-owned business“ is a completely foreign one.
Eyelians enjoy a great deal of leisure time, as chores are widely split up. This time is often spent learning songs and drum tattoos (pre-composed beats or rhythms), or seeking an animal to call friend and familiar.

Consequences/Advantages. Eyelian culture is well preserved, through their strong oral tradition, and ancient family ties. This is what has saved Eyelians from losing their beliefs and traditions as they have become increasingly cosmopolitan, to the point of assimilation in some areas.
The strong family ethic is one that allows every Eyelian to sleep soundly, as uncles and aunts stand guard, and a veritable army of animals lies in wait for predators. The gratitude owed to these animals is so great that the beast has been placed on a pedestal in Eyelian culture, creating a healthy respect for Caelereth and all its inhabitants.
The lack of many chores has allowed Eyelians to produce some of the greatest artists, philosophers, and musicians in all Sarvonia. It seems these factors are ones that could and should be emulated by other cultures, not only for the sake of saving tradition, but for the sake of the natural world.

(How does an Eyelian rectify the need to hunt for food and their kinship with animals? Don't they have to kill an animal for food? Are there any specific Eyelian rules concerning what to eat and what not to eat? Are certain animals sacred to them?)

(Overall, I think this is a good outline of the Eyelian culture, but I think it requires a great deal more detail. There is alot here that could use some more explaining. Alot of the How and Why needs to be examined and logically told.)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 13 June 2008, 06:54:31
Alright changes made. Thank you very much Azhira!
Now, to address the frequent "meat-eating" question, here is a quote from the Eyelian entry under diet.
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Eyelians eat just about anything. Even though they worship the spirit of the wolf, eagle and bear they realize these animals eat meat and so do they, including those animals they worship. They understand that the animals were placed in the world for a reason, and that was to provide sustenance for the people. However, they do so for sustenance only and not for sport. Eyelians will oppose anyone they think is harming nature or the animals if they believe it is being done out of pure sport or maliciousness.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 13 June 2008, 20:58:31
This looks very interesting, Nsiki. Unfortunately I have to cook now and no time for a thorough comment. Two things sprang into my eyes however - the use of "alpha" male - though it is used on the site (and not corrected) we try to avoid it, it sounds like a modern term (and we have no "alpha"). Especially used for humans sounds wrong for me. The other point goes into the same direction - your whole post seems a bit too scientific - ethnic groupings e.g.

I hope I find the time today to look it over, otherwise on Monday!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 13 June 2008, 22:56:40
Thank you, Talia!
Now, about the Alpha males, I wanted to use it because of the already present refrence in the wolf entry. But perhaps both mine and the wolf entry should be change... perhaps to whatever "a" in styrash is?


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 14 June 2008, 03:08:09
Nsiki, I'm afraid you have to wait for Monday, I'm stressed right now, house full of kids (rather grown up though) and tomorrow at half past five we leave for Prague!



Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Irid alMenie on 14 June 2008, 03:46:02
Ooh! I wanna go to Prague! Tell them hi from me there :P


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 14 June 2008, 04:34:57
Take however long you want, Talia, theres no rush. Heaven knows I've got enough projects on my plate right now anyways ;)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 16 June 2008, 23:04:22

 Nsiki, I see a lot of great ideas here! You just need a bit more structure, eloquence and explanations of things which are clear to you, but not necessarily to others. You tried to point out the differences between the more traditional (rural) and more "modern"(in the cites) living Eyelians and that*s great as well. You need to think about the fact however, that these traditional living Eyelians surely have moved away from their origins as well - in the last 10 000 years or so. So how might this society have looked like? But that is nothing for this submission, just a thought you might carry with you for some time, maybe there comes out another entry about a "fanatic" group of Eyelians who claim they want to go back to their roots? Just an idea for a further project.

While reading it, I had slightly the impression of reading a modern book about anthropology - and biology with using "alpha male" etc. It will not solve the problem if you use another letter. "Alpha male" is a modern expression and I find its use wrong in a bestiary entry as well. It can be easily avoided if a more appropriate description is used.

I would not mix the description of the traditional and more modern Eyelians. Stay by the traditional ones and at the end make a paragraph what is different with the modern ones. So the reader doesn't have to jump mentally from one to the next and back.


I will now take your submission apart thoroughly, I hope you don't mind and Art neither. (I normally don't do comments on newbie-stuff anymore if it is not something concerning the Shendar, out of the reason that I cannot do just a bit commenting)





The Eyelian culture is widely regarded as one of the best-preserved cultures in Southern Sarvonia.

This sentence is a bit a problem here without explanation.  And maybe even wrong.  It is surely true, that the Glandorians  have lost a great deal of their former culture and the Darian with them when they merged. But they still have their whaling business and why shold not the Darian have still kept old traditions? Apart from that - how can you say, that the Erpheronians e.g. have not preserved it as well? You need to prove your statement here. In addition, I think you want to say something else - that the Eyelians are still differ from the other tribes because they were a lot different from the beginning, coming from another continent.

I don't want to formulate for you, but I will give you some content which should go into this first paragraph:
- Not just "one of the best preserved", but as well still different because of a different heritage. They came from Nybelmar where all other came from Northern Sarvonia - at some earlier point.
- Why have other tribes preserved their culture not as well:
- - The Eyelians kept more for themselves, where  Glandorians and Darian mingeled, more or less involuntarily, the more northern tribes had more in common from the beginning and so a culturel exchange happened more easily (here you have to stay a bit vague, it is not really an argument you can defend, the Proudman have a strong heritage as well).
- You need to say here, that they have transformed and are not the same anymore, yo r next sentences will fit

  Here a sentence is missing, you skipped one, but now it falls apart. 

 How else to explain their rapid transition from forest-dwelling hunters and farmers to a cosmopolitan people still in touch with their millennia-old traditions?

 Explain? Here is nothing to explain, but to state. More: No other tribe has  developed from forest-dweling hunters  to...  AND preserved nevertheless an millennia old tradition, though of course time always takes its tribute and part of the heritage is lost inevitably 
 

  The Eyelians are noted for their amazing link to nature, exemplified by the "familiars" they share a bond with.

 Now my English is not good enough: Is  "link" the right expression? Maybe understanding of nature?(don't know, link doesn't hold for the meaning of importance..)

And now you need to describe in short, what such a familiar is, even if it is mentioned above in the text already. Don't use familiar and family in close vicinity (in a sentence). Are these just animals they have as pets, or beast of burdens to work with etc. Keep in mind, that it is expensive to own a beast, especially a big one. Cows were a fortune for farmers, not to speak of horses. What kind of animal have they with them? Woold they take in a bear? for what reason? (It would need a great amount of meat)



 Families look upon their familiars not as pets, but as members of the family (albeit with wings, fur or claws). Houses are designed specifically with certain beasts in mind, and some Eyelians even possess a remarkable resemblance to their natural brethren. Hence, the alertness and tufty hair common to those with birds no comma   and the unnatural strength to the Tamers who have tamed a larger animal, like a bear. This could, of course, only be a mix of coincidence and exaggeration, but to the Eyelians, it is a commonly accepted "Old Wives's Tale".

  I'm not sure, if you mean, that the bear clan will have bears and the eagle clan eagles. And how can they plan a house for special beasts, if they do not know, what their children will choose? The spirit guide of a child is not necessarily his familiar, is it? The family might not be able to afford that!



The next paragraph belongs already in family structures.


   Even Eyelian hierarchy seems based on nature, with the Patriarch acting as the „Alpha Male“, and the mother commanding just as much respect.
 Why "Even"? We talked already about the "alpha male" skip it please, that really sounds as if you speak of beasts, and see the comment above. 
If you use the term "patriarch", then you hint already at a "patriarchal " structure, which you deny in the same sentence. Maybe reference to nature later, if it fits at all.. and start just describing the hierarchy.

 Everyone in an Eyelian "nest" watches out for one another. Everyone, from the smallest cub (Eyelian vernacular for child) to the oldest owl (a common epitaph for the wise elders) find a safe place to lay their heads at home, surrounded by a multitude of loving guardians, from familiars to uncles.

 That "nest, cub and owl" are a nice idea , but this piece is here at the wrong place

Family Structures. Eyelian families resemble wolf packs in many ways. The mother and father are held as equals, in a twist rarely seen in modern Sarvonia. For instance, the Shendar are matriacarchal  --> matriarchal --> that's not entirely true, they are matriarchal inclined  , while the Erephonians are a male-dominated society.

   Eyelian families tend to be composed of the aforementioned parents, approximately two to four children, as well as any unmarried brothers of the father or mother, and the grandparents. Sisters tend to live with their original family.
 Describe the hierarchy first and do not go yet into occupation.
Btw, the entry says, the  Eyelian  are equal, and in this case I take it the women as well:
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Eyelians respect their laws and their elders. There is no truly 'set' hierarchy in Eyelian society; all men are equal. Some are just placed to look after the welfare of others.

That contradicts the wolfpack, where the members are NOT equal. I would skip this comparison, though it would be a nice reference to their connection with the nature, but it does not fit. Maybe you should better compare them to these desert mammals which live in huge groups where the aunts look after the young as well.
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Let me comprise, what I think you want to say, plus what I find in the entry: (formulate yourself!)

Entry: all men a equal (I include here the women as well, you do it anyway)
Nsiki: Men and women are equal (father and mother --> an uncle won't have more rights than an aunt, right?)
Entry: The hierarchy is based on RESPECT --> someone has to have the say in a way , and in this case it is the head of the family (mother and father).
Nsiki: The unmarried brothers/sisters live within this family clan and support it in every way (economical, help by children rearing..) --> composition of family

---> thus --> Everyone in an Eyelian "nest" watches out for one another. Everyone, from the smallest cub (Eyelian vernacular for child) to the oldest owl (a common epitaph for the wise elders) find a safe place to lay their heads at home, surrounded by a multitude of loving guardians, from familiars to uncles.


 And now you can switch to occupation, how do the uncles and aunts help, what is the task of the children. clear paragraphs!


Children tend to be given simpler jobs, like cleaning, and chasing birds from the fields. The uncles and aunts often bring in supplementary income, and are expected to help guard the homestead in traditional communities. This supplementary income is often found in the form of substinance farming, small-game hunting, or perhaps free-lance work in certain crafts. Amantry is also a popular choice.The eldest members of the families tend to be too old to work. They instead act as peace keepers and wisdom-bringers for the younger Eyelians.
 You Youngster! Even immobile old people do work! Or is peacekeeping no work?

What about: If an Eyelian gets too old to be able to do hard physical work (or is disabled by an accident) he still fulfills an useful task, maybe the most important within the community: They not only help guarding and educating the children, they are the peacekeepers and wisdom-bringers, they are those who conciliate between(?) families whenever a quarrel arises. 

        It is the younger Eyelians who often have the most varied job, and any Eyelian child quickly becomes a "jack-of-all-trades". We decided not to use this term, it is not Santharian enough For these children will of course learn their parents craft, as will a child in any culture. But in an Eyelian family, there are many crafts to be learned. For instance, many young girls pick up Amantry from their aunts, and boys learn the tasks of a sentinel from their uncles.
        The task of sentinel is one extremely important to traditional Eyelian communities. These communities tend to be in isolated, rural, areas, without a battalion of soldiers within calling distance. Attacks can come from any direction. The coast brings pirates, the roads brigands, and the woods bring hungry wolves and giant rats.

Please, a better grouping, don't switch from one to the next
What are doing the
-parents
- unmarried aunts/brothers
- children
- old people 

        It is the role of these Alpha parents to support the very large Eyelian families. In older, traditional settlements, the parents are the hunters and gatherers, while in modern Eyelian homes, the parents are the primary workers, with live-in uncles and grandparents providing only a supplemental income, and that only rarely. However, everyone in an Eyelian family is expected to help in some way. And with a family as big as an Eyelian’s, tasks tend to get done!

OK --> rearrange this paragraph above, then it is easier to read! 

        Keep in mind, traditional and cosmopolitan families are drastically different. Traditional families tend to be part of a much greater whole, with the „entire pack raising the cub“as it were, while modern families are more often separated from other Eyelians. However, in cities with large Eyelian populations, the families often band together in ethnic neighborhoods. These „Tomo’odons“, or „whole worlds“, are very close-knit, and often feature beautiful parks and landscaping. They also feature unique "stables", also called "Tomo'ay'els". These stables are homes for the neighborhood's larger fammiliars. For instance, in an average Tomo'ay'el, one may find Gryphs, wolves, or even Tagers. In non-Eyelian cities, these areas are harshly guarded, mainly from the villagers' fears. The proximity to these dangerous creatures can indeed be a cause for fright. However, these Tomo'ay'els are becoming less common. The urbane Eyelian has adopted more socially acceptable fammiliars for the purpose of gaining trust and convince. These fammiliars often include completely mundane animals, like dogs and cats.

 Put this at the end! 
   Eyelian families tend to follow a similar schedule. Meals tend to be very important, group, affairs. Over a dinner of roasted Taenish and Kellian, the elders share stories, often in the language of the beasts. While a large Eyelian family growling, clucking, snarling, and laughing may seem strange, it perhaps grows stranger as  a wolf pads near, a pair of stormcrows settles in the rafters, and four tiny lizards scamper to their child masters. But this is an average Eyelian meal, and it happens three times a day.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 16 June 2008, 23:23:14
Talia, you're my favorite :)
Thank you very much, I certainly wasn't expecting such a plethora of coments!
I am working on integrating them right now, I just had one comment, about how even rural Eyelian society has remained static vs changed:
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Nevertheless there are still various places around the Rimmerins Ring, where you can find whole swathes of land tucked into the mountainside where Eyelians have preserved their traditions in the most original form. Here you will encounter all the Eyelian traditions of the different clans, which you can also discern easily by judging the way their homes are built.  Return to the top


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 16 June 2008, 23:28:03
I have completely left spirit guides out of this entry.... I need to explain that concept as wlll.... Jith!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 17 June 2008, 05:05:01
Thank you Nsiki! :)

To your quote. You are right, but I think this should be changed in the entry to something like: In some of the villages the culture is preserved as much as it was possible considering the amount of time which has passed. A culture which doesn't change over the time will simply die out. That sentence  in the entry is not reasonable.

And apart from that, I'm not finished ;)
But I had to write this magnetism  post..


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 17 June 2008, 05:12:47
So now we need to change the Eyelian entry... *gulp*
Well, maybe later. As it is now, I've got enough on my plate!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 17 June 2008, 08:42:01
Alright, finished, with a thank-you section on the end.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Drúadan on 17 June 2008, 09:51:07
Something I just thunk of... ;)

"Familiar" I believe, is a D&D thing. I play rogues, but if I remember correctly wizards have a familiar. Would be alot of work, I'm sorry, but perhaps there is another word we could use? Pretty sure we're trying to stray away from D&D words. Others have obviously read this and have been comfortable with it because I don't think anyone else has brought this up, but perhaps the aforementioned others did not know the origin of the word. Long and short of it is, perhaps not "familiar". Nothing springing to mind as a substition though... uh oh. :D

Other opinions?


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 17 June 2008, 10:09:05
Well, familiar's a MUCH older term then D&D, and it is used on the rp boards... but we could change it... mabye just make up some simple Eyelian name, or see if we can't come up with something new... like you, Dru, I can't think of anything else....


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Drúadan on 17 June 2008, 10:12:43
Well, I didn't know its origin before D&D... if it really is an older word, I guess there's no problem.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 17 June 2008, 11:07:06
it started in the Middle Ages, England and France, mainly, as a "witch's familiar", like a toad, or a black cat.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Alysse the Likely on 17 June 2008, 15:18:09
If you prefer not to use "familiar", perhaps something like "small-friend"? Or  "Cohort", with a capital C?  Co-peer?

It might be neat to have a purely Santharian name for it, anyway.


Alysse


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Bard Judith on 17 June 2008, 17:50:36
Yes, while 'familiar' is an old word, it also has inextricable associations and connotations.

Create an evocative quasi-Eyelian / Tharian name, by all means!  And make it easily memorable.   No one has any difficulty remembering Talia's 'Aj', for example...

"Par'soule" perhaps?  "Twaehort"?   "Trufrien"?  "Fam'beste"?

 "Bondenbeast", shortened to "bonden"?  "My bonden was restless last night, so I went out to see him and he told me there were wolves about..."




Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 18 June 2008, 02:16:09
Quote from Druadán:

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"Something I just thunk of..."

Think - thunk - er... funky?  :shocked:


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Drúadan on 18 June 2008, 04:00:18
:lol:
Sorry, I was just joking around. Thunk is one of those... dunno guess you could call it an American thing. We don't really use it... it's kind've confusing. Americans believe using bad grammer is funny sort've. Ok just ignore than i've confused myself. Let's just say it's one of my, er, mannerisms I think is the word. Thunk=thought. ;)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 18 June 2008, 04:34:26
Bo'oden?
Fa'emel?
or Ay'el, from the stables, "Tomo'ay'el", world of the familiar.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 4th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 18 June 2008, 09:00:01
OK, thanks for the input everyone!
I'll add the word Ay'els, and then hopefully have this up soon!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 18 June 2008, 09:30:49
Aaaaand.... finished!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 18 June 2008, 16:23:14
Eh, no, I didn't look at the second part yet - after my shower and breakfast I will do!  :)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 18 June 2008, 23:38:54
Oh dear....
Well, I am confident in the utter perfection of the second part.
And I have a feeling that you are about to firmly wedge my foot in my mouth! ;)
Thank you, Talia!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 20 June 2008, 02:58:50
If not today, your submission will be on my list what to read while having breakfast ;) (instead of the newspaper!)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 20 June 2008, 07:18:37
Thank you very much, Talia. For your efforts, by the way, you are mentioned as a researcher at the end of the entry.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 20 June 2008, 19:51:09

   Ok, a last look through. And don't be surprised, if I find something else every time I read it ;)





The Eyelian culture is widely regarded as one of the best-preserved cultures in Southern Sarvonia.
 What does this actually mean, what is preserved, the state when they  might have come from Nybelmar? I would propose to say it a bit different:

"The Eyelian culture is widely regarded as the one which has  - though developing and adapting to the new situation - preserved its way of life they brought with them from unknown shores over the centuries. "

(We don't know , where from they came, it is just assumed!


However, do not take this to mean that the Eyelians are identical to the other Southern Sarvonian cultures
   Sorry, but that does sound strange - who would take the Eyelians as identical.. the other tribes are not identical either. Maybe:

"This foreign origin, being a different tribe among the resident Sarvonian tribes might be the reason for their distinct culture - they didn't mingle as easily with the other tribes for the culturel barriers where much bigger than those between the Sarvonian tribes
For instance, no other race possess the ability to speak to animals, and this sets the Eyelians apart.<---replaced this sentence   


- they are an entirely different tribe, ancient Nymblemareans among countless Sarvonians. Obviously however, that heritage   

has since blurred in some places, and remained rock-hard in others.  T
he ways the Eyelians have integrated and blended with the rest of the Kingdom of Santharia are numerous. No longer do the majority of Eyelian cities communicate with the Ha’hep. They now  use 
 the same as any Proudman or Averonnian, be that by courier or Wynd Rider.  From humble hunter beginnings, the Eyelians have developed into a sophisticated, cosmopolitan people , but    with a strong link to their roots and the natural world.

   The Eyelians are noted for this amazing understanding of nature, exemplified by the "familiars" they share a bond with. (Please note: Familiars are simply animals that have been tamed by Eyelians, not the mysterious spirit guides, referenced in the Eyelian entry. Also note the Eyelian word for “familiar is “Ay’el”, and they shall be referred to as such for the rest of the entry.)

  That is very similar to Aj'Nuvic, is that intended? Aj'Nuvic has a meaning (Aj= before, nuvic= races, what about Ay?


 Families look upon their ay’els not as pets, but as members of the family (albeit with wings, fur or claws). Ay’els can generally look after themselves, and some (the larger predators) will leave the city limits to find food. Also the larger animals rarely stay with the Eyelians. In cities with high concentrations of Eyelians, any Tame can rent out a stable space for relatively cheap. These specially designed stables will often be strongly reinforced, so the beasts will not mingle or escape.
These ay’els are extremely important to the Tamers- evidenced by the observation that some Eyelians even possess a remarkable resemblance to their natural brethren. Hence, the alertness and tufty hair common to those with birds and the unnatural strength to the Tamers who have tamed a larger animal, like a bear. This could, of course, only be a mix of coincidence and exaggeration, but to the Eyelians, it is a commonly accepted "Old Wives's Tale".

 Maybe those with tuffty hairs look out for birds and the stronger ones for bears? 

    Eyelian hierarchy seems based on nature, with the Patriarch and the Matriarch commanding equal respect, much as their counter-parts in a wolf pack would.
  What does this sentence here?  Put it here***  "The hierarchy seems ...


Family Structures. Eyelian families are a composite of several different natural heirchies ?? what? 
- they share the Patriarch/Matriarch dynaimic with wolves, and resemble herd animals like horses, in the way that their society shows little discrimination, and much equality. *** The mother and father, for instance, are held as equals, a twist rarely seen in modern Sarvonia. For instance, the Shendar are matriarchal inclined!!!!! I told you!   
, while the Erephonians are a male-dominated society.
Another difference between Sarvonian and Eyelian society is that the Eyelians treasure   
 equality- there are no serfs and vassals, all men and women are equal. This is most likely an extension of family life. As in Eyelian communities, everyone in an Eyelian "nest" watches out for one another. Everyone, from the smallest cub (Eyelian vernacular for child) to the oldest owl (a common epitaph for the wise elders) finds   
 a safe place to lay their heads at home, surrounded by a multitude of loving guardians, from ay’els to uncles.

   Eyelian families tend to be composed of the aforementioned parents, approximately two to four children, as well as any unmarried brothers of the father or mother, and the grandparents. Sisters tend to live with their original family.
  I don't get this... in which family should the sisters live, when the grandparents are living with the core family? With which child will the grandparents live, if there are four e.g. I think you need to create a bigger community here, where married siblings are living close together, forming a clan. However then you have to decide, will the woman leave her family and join the family of her husband or the husband join the clan of his new wife.  And you get problems with your "the parents are the core"

If you see each family as a unit, then not every family has necessarily grandparents with them nor might there be many brothers/sisters around. They can choose with whom to live! And when does this family structure end, when gets a couple too old, when will it give up its position as patriarch and matriarch to give it over to one of their children - when the first one marries? I don't think, I would like to give up my responsibility - and power

It is the role of these parents to support the very large Eyelian families. In older, traditional settlements, the parents are the hunters and gatherers, while in modern Eyelian homes, the parents are the primary workers, with live-in uncles and grandparents providing only a supplemental income, and that only rarely. Why only rarely?
However, everyone in an Eyelian family is expected to help in some way. And with a family as big as an Eyelian’s, tasks tend to get done!  Is it really so big? See above!

The uncles and aunts often bring in supplementary income, and are expected to help guard the homestead in traditional communities. This  additional 
 income is often found in the form of sustenance farming, small-game hunting, or perhaps free-lance work in certain crafts. Amantry is also a popular choice. Not all of the work the relatives do is ment to bring in income- uncles often act as “Wa’ahdens”, or sentinels.  The task of sentinel is one extremely important to traditional Eyelian communities. These communities tend to be in isolated, rural, areas, without a battalion of soldiers within calling distance. Attacks can come from any direction. The coast brings pirates, the roads brigands, and the woods bring hungry wolves and giant rats.
Another important task done by the uncles and aunts which   
brings in no immediate income  is   
 teaching the children. As the parents are often away at work, or busy rearing the children in other ways, the task of teaching the young specific crafts often falls to the aunts and uncles. This teaching is often done as the aunts and uncles work.   What if there are no unmarried sisters or brothers? This will be not soo common, or? and when, why?

Any Eyelian quickly becomes a “ju’ek’atra’ad”, an Eyelian epitaph for one who holds a basic smattering of many skills, yet has mastered none. These children will of course learn their parents craft, as will a child in any culture. But in an Eyelian family, there are many crafts to be learned. For instance, many young girls pick up Amantry from their aunts, and boys learn the tasks of a sentinel from their uncles. As far as actual chores go, however, the children tend to be given simpler jobs, like cleaning, and chasing birds from the fields.
While the elder’s also aid in the teaching of children, the do so on a much larger scale. The old act as “sharers of wisdom for the whole family”, imparting valuable advice, and solving conflicts between families, and within them. In an Eyelian community, the elders are highly valued, both as teachers and mediators.
    Keep in mind, traditional and cosmopolitan families are drastically different. Traditional families tend to be part of a much greater whole, with the “entire pack raising the cub” as it were, while modern families are more often separated from other Eyelians. However, in cities with large Eyelian populations, the families often band together in ethnic neighborhoods. These „Tomo’odons“, or „whole worlds“, are very close-knit, and often feature beautiful parks and landscaping. They also feature unique "stables", also called "Tomo'ay'els". These stables are homes for the neighborhood's larger ay’els. For instance, in an average Tomo'ay'el, one may find Gryphs, wolves, or even Tagers. In non-Eyelian cities, these areas are harshly guarded, mainly from the villagers' fears. The proximity to these dangerous creatures can indeed be a cause for fright. However, these Tomo'ay'els are becoming less common. The urbane Eyelian has adopted more socially acceptable ay’els for the purpose of gaining trust, but mostly for convince. These ay’els often include completely mundane animals, like dogs and cats.
Eyelian families tend to follow a similar schedule. Meals tend to be very important, group, affairs. Over a dinner of roasted Taenish and Kellian, the elders share stories, often in the language of the beasts.   I don't think, that you can share a true story in the language of the beasts, they can't do it either and have not the means. What might be possible is to give short commands..
While a large Eyelian family growling, clucking, snarling, and laughing may seem strange, it perhaps grows stranger as a wolf pads near, a pair of stormcrows settles in the rafters, and four tiny lizards scamper to their child masters. But this is an average Eyelian meal, and it happens three times a day.

Education and Gender-Related Occupations. Eyelian children are taught differently depending on where they live. In traditional communities, the teaching is lorded over by a select group of elders, imparting the wisdom of the natural world, coupled with the task of learning a trade. Eyelian children often pick their craft early in life (around age 12 or so), and devote their lives to it. Eyelings (Eyelian children, sometimes affectionately known as „cubs“ or „jsals“) who have a fondness for the earth learn which crops grow best in which season, and what plants are too finicky for the native soil. These cubs are often taken to the fields, and participate in the harvest as much as possible. They will spread seed, till the earth, and scare away the crows. The latter job is a favorite among young cubs, who often favor a roar or howl to frighten birds away. Eyelians who live near the coast can have very different jobs as farmers. These land-keepers will often harvest not grain and vegetable, but salt from the ocean itself. This is a popular choice for cubs in certain communities, as it grants the young ones a chance to sneak away and play in the ocean’s surf and waves.
Cubs who show a talent for leadership are encouraged to lead the “gangs” young Eyelians form. The word gang does not carry the negative connotation it does in many other cultures. In the Eyelian tounge, “tomo’ajsal” is the word for gang, and actually means something approximate to “world of the young”. The members of individual tomo’ajsals frequently engage each other in play combat, shows of strength and enurance, and frequent footraces.
Some Eyelings even strive to be counted among the beast-masters, and those who show a prodigious talent for the beast-tongue are taken in by the beast-masters of the tribe. The beast-masters will teach the young Eyelians the nuances of the beast tounge, for instance, how body language can change the meaning of individual grunts, and how certain chirps will have different meanings to different birds. Becoming a beast-master is a long journey, often requiring frequent forays into the forest, but the rewards can be great.
By the age of sixteen, an Eyelian is prepared for his line of work, and may even be thinking about finding himself a wife, and starting his own pack. However, Eyelians rarely have children until at least age 18. The two years in between are used for the parents of the future parents to teach the art of child-rearing to the new couple.
These traditions are similar in urban areas. However, there tend to be more opportunities for these children. Every year, it seems, less city-cubs want to leave town for the old ways, and more want to strike it rich as merchants.


Possessions. Quantity of material possessions is not of great importance to Eyelians, but every item an Eyelian owns holds special importance to him or her. These items tend to be things like jewelry, weapons, and trinkets. Jewelery is perhaps the most common possession. Many Eyelians own many rings, necklaces, and bracelets, each commerating different occasions. These items are commonly given as gifts on birthdays, and as tokens between young lovers. Weapons are also popular gifts, and are handed down patriarchly. One spear haft may be as many as four generations old, the spearhead replaced whenever needed. Often, the arrow used for a hunter's first kill is saved, and placed in a spot of honor in the Eyelian home. All other tools and valuables, like plows and lumbar axes are owned by the community. Generosity is a chief virtue for Eyelians, or as they say it „One wolf’s kill is the whole pack’s meal“.

Freedom. Freedom is an integral part of Eyelian society, especially to the Bear clan. While some cultures prefer rigidity and daily schedules, Eyelian's prefer to simply know when they must work, and spend the rest of the time in spontaneous leisure activities. The bear tribe, as the most creative of the three places great importance on this leisure time, and has used it to compose some of the greatest pieces of artwork seen in Southern Sarvonia. All Eyelians are free to pick their own trade, and the concept of a „family-owned business“ is a completely foreign one.
Eyelians enjoy a great deal of leisure time, as chores are widely split up. This time is often spent learning songs and drum tattoos (pre-composed beats or rhythms), or seeking an animal to call friend and ay’el.

Consequences/Advantages. Eyelian culture is well preserved, through their strong oral tradition, and ancient family ties. This is what has saved Eyelians from losing their beliefs and traditions as they have become increasingly cosmopolitan, to the point of assimilation in some areas.
The strong family ethic is one that allows every Eyelian to sleep soundly, as uncles and aunts stand guard, and a veritable army of animals lies in wait for predators. The gratitude owed to these animals is so great that the beast has been placed on a pedestal in Eyelian culture, creating a healthy respect for Caelereth and all its inhabitants.
The lack of many chores has allowed Eyelians to produce some of the greatest artists, philosophers, and musicians in all Sarvonia. It seems these factors are ones that could and should be emulated by other cultures, not only for the sake of saving tradition, but for the sake of the natural world.

 The problem is - life was hard in medieval times and not much time there for leisure. Maybe you say, because the Eyelians do not strive for great possession, they have more time, however, if you are poor, that is not a choice either. Perhaps a reason would be the fertility of the soil, the easy way of finding food, the moderate climate, don't know.


Quite nice entry now, just solve you family-structure problem! 


A note on the researchers of the Eyelian people:
The Eyelians are blessed and cursed by their exotic nature- it has brought much attention (and scrutiny!) to these people. Some of the most famous researchers of the Eyelian Tamers are:
The noted author Capher, one of the most famous personality in Santharia. It is said, that he not only is   
a strong and sturdy man who has journeyed far and wide across Sarvonia to learn more about not only the Eyelians  and 
 several other tribes as well,   but that he is the last of the shapeshifting dragons. 
;
Lady Tiaa, a schoalr most widely known for her ventures to Aerullian;
and Lady Talia, a strong Shendar woman known as one of the prime contributers to the Santharian Compendium.


It is nice, that you want to mention me :) , I fell honoured and encouraged and though I did help already Lady Tiaa, I don't know, if you should mention me.  But look for Tiaas Cd, I think she might even be from Aeruillin.  And it should be at the end of the Eyelian entry!


Spellcheck!


Nsiki, please take your time to go through this submission thorouhgly a last time, even when your place is tempting you more, it is really interesting now!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 21 June 2008, 21:50:12
A spell-check has been run, comments have been integrated, the family structure simplified and explained.
Thank you very much all who helped, but especially you, Talia!
And there is no relationship between aj'nuvic and ay'el. The ay'el is derived from the Eyelian name for stable (world of the beast/animals/familiars), so it would simple mean an animal or familiar.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 21 June 2008, 22:36:10
Nsiki, I think the similarity is nevertheless an unhappy coincidence I do not really like.

Aj for the best friend of the Shendar
Ay for the best friend of the Eyelians, two tribes which have no origin in common. You use a lot of ' as well, which did originally the Shendar and not the Eyelians. (Whihc I used a lot before you developed your nomenclatur)

What about using Ey'el instead of Ay'el (from Eyelians) and write it together? Eyel? 
I really would appreciate some distinction between the two tribes and their animals.


To the researcher: I would propose following.

"The first researcher who wrote about the Eyelians for the great compendium was Capher, one of the most famous personality in Santharia. It is said, that he not only is   
a strong and sturdy man who has journeyed far and wide across Sarvonia to learn more about not only the Eyelians and
 several other tribes as well,   but that he is the last of the shapeshifting dragons.

Lady Tiaa, a scholar most widely known for her studies of her Native Aeruillin, expanded on Capher's constitutive researches, where the newest contributor to the compendium regarding the Eyelians, Nsiki...  Yourth,  was due to his own Eyelian heritage able to bring  more light into subjects like music, society and the origin of names.

Talia Strumwind  - among others - assisted Lady Tiaa as Nsiki.. in their research.  "

I don't have the time to read it again right now, I hope Art will find any inconsistencies when looking it through during update.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 21 June 2008, 22:42:44
Awww. Are you sure I can write my name in? Thanks, Tal.
And as a general rule in Eyelian nomenclature, vowels are always separated by apostrophes....
let me see what I can do for you.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 21 June 2008, 22:51:53
Ay'el changed to Bo'en.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 22 June 2008, 08:53:36
So Art, is this ready for that little green check?


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 22 June 2008, 16:26:03
Yes, I'm working on it right now.  :cool:


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 22 June 2008, 17:03:38
Thank you Nsiki for changing the name of the familiar :)  Bo is a nice nickname as well!



Nsiki, you family system still does not work properly.

Art, maybe you should add, that the grandparents join the family of the (male) child which marries first..

And at some point "unmarried" needs to be added to the uncles. However, even married uncles could help teaching a craft to the child.

Nsiki, what about the other siblings, who marry. Which family do they join?


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 22 June 2008, 22:25:57
Right.... hold on...
How about "Please note that this family dynamic is not set in stone. For instance, the elders live with the male child who has married first. This means that his brothers will not have an elder living in their family. Also, due to the fact that the daughter's family does not move with her, there are families where the financial responsibility sits on the the unmarried brothers, and very rarely, the unmarried sisters. However, there is tremendous pressure in Eyelian society to marry young, so the only discrepensy commonly seen is the lack of an in-house elder. However, this is not a tremendous disadvantage, as closely related families will often live in close proximity, forming an almost clan-like bond."
Alright.... I'll add that to the entry, I'm really sorry to the both of you, I didn't realize what Talia meant until she clarified it for me....
stupid apprentice...
need any tents washed? Ajs feed? Art, want me to fetch some Artwine, perhaps?


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 22 June 2008, 22:45:00
No alcohol now, Nsiki - first have to finish an update :)

Okeydokey, I've added that additional paragraph in now as well!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 22 June 2008, 23:06:03
Well, tent washing never occured to me.. but it might be a good idea and I will ask you sometimes later to come and do some cleaning ;)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 22 June 2008, 23:39:59
Very well....
How about, after the update, we'll all meet in Tal's tent, I'll serve some Artwine, clean the tent, and then maybe, MAYBE, I'll take you over to Kyttareng?


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 23 June 2008, 01:33:54
Btw, we have no tents, but domes, but you are surely welcome in the Kirilit dome. And bring with you some Artiwine, you might not be able to drink Shendar fire ;)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 23 June 2008, 06:39:47
That's it, Talia, I'm coming up with some fiery Eyelian spirits!
Ready for some Nsikiwine?
Only joking, I'm not THAT arrogant ;)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 23 June 2008, 07:51:14
Nisiki,  I just read the researchers part in the Eyelian entry - it is too much praise for me, others have contributed to other entries just as much as I have here.

I think it would have been better to better describe what the part was, the author has done, like I proposed above.

"The first researcher who wrote about the Eyelians for the great compendium was Capher, one of the most famous personality in Santharia. It is said, that he not only is  a strong and sturdy man who has journeyed far and wide across Sarvonia to learn more about not only the Eyelians and several other tribes as well,  but that he is the last of the shapeshifting dragons.

Lady Tiaa, a scholar most widely known for her studies of her Native Aeruillin, expanded on Capher's constitutive researches, where the newest contributor to the compendium regarding the Eyelians, Nsiki...  Yourth,  was due to his own Eyelian heritage able to bring  more light into subjects like music, society and the origin of names.
"

Please ask Art to remove me there, maybe exclude you, for there is already mentioned in the  last line what you did.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 23 June 2008, 07:57:44
So you want yourself excluded, and possibly me included?


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 24 June 2008, 04:23:02
Nsiki, I started with feeding SNG with your syllables, and you can see first results here (http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,11660.msg151595/topicseen.html#post_Eyelians). So far so good, the names look pretty unique :)

However, I cannot go really much further at this point, because I notice upon entering the syllables that you didn't take one important thing enough into account - that female endings should be quite distinct from the male names. You have varying beginnig syllables, but there's no proper scheme how to make the female names distinctive in the ending. Look at the other tribes we have defined in the mentioned thread - there you see how such a system is established. It's not only an -a at an end, but at the Avennorians you have various combinations of -rid, -rig, -run, -rike, -the, -veig, -vig etc. Such things are missing at the moment at the Eyelian female names definitions. Looking at a name should make it pretty much clear if the name is male or female.

You could estabish schemes like having female names end on i'i, y'y or j'j and make for example i a very prominent part of an ending, something that is pretty clear at any rate that it stands for something female for this culture.

I suggest to take a look again at the female endings and redefine them with a very clear scheme, then I can progress.

P.S. Feel free to move some syllables from the male section to the female in order to accomplish this, don't worry about the names I created yet. Important is to get the definition right. If it is fine, I'll start making names again :)


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 24 June 2008, 05:20:56
Hmmmm....
And I based all of those of off a blend of real names, or at least real nomenclatures....
Well, then, another project.
Keep in mind, Im out of town right now, so computer use is a bit intermittent. I'll do my best to get that up in the next week or two.
Thanks Art!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Tha'eli on 25 June 2008, 03:46:31
Boo!

I was looking through the Eyelian information page, and I saw this section: "They may not flaunt the most expensive of jewels and gems, but any piece of jewelry they wear usually has a great meaning behind it. Little girls and boys have their earrings pierced, women usually wear various bracelets and necklaces, and men may wear wrist braces and necklaces. A traveling Eyelian is often taken as a Rover because of their bright ornaments, although unlike the Butterfly Rovers, Eyelians do not wear more jewelry than needed. They do not purchase or wear items just because it would look nice. Each item they adorn is because it will or does mean something to them. "

Can I develop on this? I have some ideas as to what sort of jewelry could be worn - brooches in the shape of the individual's bo’en, perhaps? As a sort of coming-of-age ceremony, one must use whatever materials they can find to fashion this brooch, earring, necklace, bracelet or ring...

Another quick idea for jewelry could be that, for every important even in an Eyelian's life, a certain colour of ribbon could be sewn onto the clothes of that person... for example, when they fall in love, marry, have children, tame a bo’en, a family member dies... this could be a sort of public display of that person's life, so they can learn more about each other simply through these ribbons.

Sorry if any of this stuff contradicts other information - I haven't finished reading the page yet.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 25 June 2008, 03:50:19
Nope no contradictions, and an Eyelian Jewelry entry would be very nice!
Perhaps instead of ribbons little braided strings, more tassel-like?
I'm also working on an Eyelian body-mod entry that uses piercings and tattoos in a similar manner, so you may want to say that "some Eyelians prefer the old ways, and bear tattoos or piercings to commemorate these major events."


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Tha'eli on 25 June 2008, 03:59:59
Yes, tassels sound good. Braided mult-coloured strings with beaded ends, frayed in such a way depending on the type of event that had taken place... *goes off on a tangent*

*returns to present* Oh, right.

This tassel tradition was used up until recent times, when tattooing was first discovered. Now, many of the newer generations of Eyelians use tattoos and/or piercings to commemorate great events in their lives, while those of older times still braid their own ribbons. Unlike the tassels, tattoos and piercings can be placed almost anywhere on the body, and so the location of these body decorations now also play a part in how important an event was. The head is usually the most favoured spot for love and children, while the feet are reserved for deaths. Anything in between is usually found on the chest, arms or hands.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 25 June 2008, 04:16:43
Very nice!
Im looking forward to this!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Tha'eli on 25 June 2008, 04:35:45
Is there a certain way in which I should present this, or can I just write up a little article to be added to the big information page?


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 25 June 2008, 04:43:12
  HOW TO DO PRODUCTS AND INDUSTRIES

    *

      Name of Product/Industry
      E.g. - Paper, Salt Farming, Dyes & Stains, Tanning, Honey
So here, Eyelian Jewelry
    *

      Overview
      A general introduction to the subject, giving a few basic details on what it is and why it is important.
    *

      Description of the Product
      What does it look like (and/or 'smell, taste, feel, sound' like)? Are there different grades, types, kinds? How much do they cost? Is it sturdy and easily transported, or perishable?
    *

      Method of Production
      What are the ingredients and materials required? How are they processed? Are there several steps or middlemen? Is one person involved from start to finish or is it a many-handed operation? What are the amounts? What are the results? Any by-products, either useful or harmful?
    * Check the Eyelian entry, under trade.

      Areas of Production
      Where is the product made - urban areas or country, on-location or in a 'factory', cottage industry/single proprietor/guild-manufactured? What areas of the province, what cities or towns are known for this industry? Trade relationships that depend on this product? How is it commonly transported and in what form?
    *

      Usage
      What for is this product used? How is it used? What is made out of it? etc.
    *

      History of the Industry
      Give us some idea about how long this process has been known to the continent, or at least in Santharia. Any notable discoveries, breakthroughs or innovations in the manufacturing process? Any famous inventors or experimentors? Any disasters?
    *

      Lore and Legend
      Some interesting details and creative touches can be added here. You may be able to combine this with usage, or have both sections referencing each other.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Tha'eli on 25 June 2008, 04:47:11
Ahhh, thank you so much!


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 25 June 2008, 04:48:59
no problem!
I'm out of town for a bit, today I have computer use, but i may not have this luxury for long- but when I get back you can definitly expect some comments from me.


Title: Re: Eyelian Culture- 7th edition
Post by: Tha'eli on 25 June 2008, 04:53:12
Okay, all the jewelry stuff I'm designing for the Eyelians is going on this thread: http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,12661.0.html (http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,12661.0.html)