Santharian Development

Santharian World Development => Santharian Artists Workshop and Resources => Topic started by: Xenos Ravenbeack on 15 June 2001, 10:42:00



Title: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some time
Post by: Xenos Ravenbeack on 15 June 2001, 10:42:00
especialy in the last 2 centuries, after all if the firelance machine was used it had to be used on SOMEONE whouldn't it, besides the R'unorian military probly exixts for a reason. any volenteers? I need to have an idea before I write to many more empresses as I'm planing to go al the way back to the unification with them.



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 15 June 2001, 11:57:00
Where exactly lies R'unor?

If you want R'unor to be a strong naval force we might arrange it that way that Aca-Santerra or the Empire of Korwein from Nybelmar once fought a High Sea War against it and your machine was used to destroy several island outposts.

There might be skirmishes between them ever since. At least I planned these empires to have strong navies, too.

If R'unor is east of Sarvonia we might have a slight problem to make it sound logic.
Other opponents might be Strata or Caltharia. Strata is a good naval force but Caltharia is not elaborated, yet. But it's at the east coast of Santharia.
I think we should not have the already elaborated countries always fight against eachother but also against the 'planned' ones, so I would recommend one of the yet unkown countries, wether Tribes on Sarvonia or in Nybelmar.

Anyone else volunteer? At least, Aca-Santerra is arrogant and strong enough to stand a fight without getting destroyed. But they might be majorily pi**ed off when being defeated. ;)


Are there other proposals, ideas?




Koldar Mondrakken, Knight of the Moonlight



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Gean Firefeet on 15 June 2001, 12:25:00
Well I'm sure if someone was going to be a nuaghty competitor within territorial waters, the Stratanian navy would definately engage. Note that Stratania already has a war somewhere in history with Milkengrad (around 600 b.S.) and then it's rise to naval power was not of any meaning till approx. 1300 b.S. So if you need war before that time, I won't be there...

also you need a good reason, the war with Milkengrad was well planned and logical to happen, it shouldn't be any different here. And really we are a peaceful people ;)  



Title: To Koldor
Post by: Xenos Ravenbeack on 15 June 2001, 13:00:00
Seems like a prime canidate... however R'unor is to the east, but that could explain why they didn't have many land battles.

I assume that your empire would have many smaller vessles while R'unor has a smaller number of more powerful ships(hight tech, lower natural resources) of coarse we need a when, a why, and locations for major battles.



Title: Re: To Koldor
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 15 June 2001, 14:40:00
Perhaps Aerrylium might be an interesting place to launch a war as it is meant to be moved farther south... (so both sides have a equally long distance)
Then we have the Wernam archipelago that nearly encircles Nybelmar and will be the colonial domain of its empires and is used as stepstones for further exploration to other shores.

But perhaps Artimidor has some idea about the distances he plan for the continents... maybe R'unor should be somewhere nearer Aerrylium? Depends on with whom they already have contact...

Koldar Mondrakken, Knight of the Moonlight



Title: Re: To Koldor
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 16 June 2001, 11:35:00
Ah, well. First: Read the R'unor entry for an exact location! It says: "Group of isles in the southern vicinity of the north-eastern part of the Sarvonian continent, far to the north of Denilou." This means that it is much closer to Northern Sarvonia (and eastern continents) than to everything else and that wars with Aeruillin or Nybelmar are very unlikely. Maybe they also had fights with certain barbarians of North Sarvonia or made assaults themselves on the mainland, because they tried to conquer these lands?



Title: Re: To Koldor
Post by: Xenos Ravenbeack on 16 June 2001, 15:15:00
good ideas arti... but what about cyhalloi? anyone there?



Title: Re: To Koldor
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 16 June 2001, 15:27:00
Was just thinking about it. R'unor is somewhat exotic and I don't know if they fit to Santharia but more to Nybelmar or other lands.
Santharia is more traditional and I havethe feeling it has already lots of wars in the last centuries whereas Nybelmar an Aerrylium have no history at all . That's kind of a problem. :/

Koldar Mondrakken, Knight of the Moonlight



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Dala Valannia on 16 June 2001, 20:16:00
After finishing Katya, I plan to concentrate and expand on the history of the Azhorhria, a desert tribe, living in the Ysthalinth part of Aeruillin. But that's not for sometime yet seeing how Katya is still meandering in Voldar! :lol  I'm not sure if the Azhorhria is a suitable race for going into genocidal war with, seeing how powerful your firelance machine is! The Azhorhria excel mostly in land and guerilla warfare so therefore I fear for them if they were to get into a skirmish with R'unor cause the tribes' the sort that'll fight to the last man even when overhwhelmed! You can't exterminate them, nooooooooo!, I need them for my next series!!! :eek

Why do we need wars anyway?? Why can't we all just be friends??? Make Love, Not War!  



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Xenos Ravenbeack on 16 June 2001, 21:54:00
R'unorian's don't genocide... they assimulate. besides there a bit far away and it would be a war going nowera fast(r'unor whould whoop upon them at sea but there whoul land based starigy is meant for island hopping.) I agree about peac and the free love... but it's not realistic under the context of a world full of death violence and other vary bad things.



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 17 June 2001, 01:33:00
Hmmm... There currently exist no useable data on Cyhalloi and people living in these cold regions. But it would be possible to set up some sort of Viking fellows there, maybe? On the other hand: The construction of the Firelance machine suggests that the R'unorian's main intention was not to defend themselves but to conquer something, you know?



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 17 June 2001, 03:34:00
The other idea would be to move R'unor from the east to the west as they're still on their own and not mentioned in Santharian history. Aca-Santerra would be honored!

But... I fear Artimidor has other plans with you, Xenos. It seems you're planned in to populate Cyhalloi!  Poor Xenos! ;)

*hehe*

Koldar Mondrakken, Knight of the Moonlight



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Xenos Ravenbeack on 17 June 2001, 08:31:00
accualy I had originaly planned to have r'unor to the north east of Akdor...  



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Greybark on 17 June 2001, 10:01:00
Ah, I would love to volunteer a branch of Brownies to get wiped out by your wonderous machine, but, alas! I see no way to make such a confrontation anything but laughable.

Perhaps if the focus of the war was shifted from just land and conquering to competition for a valuable resource or special object....this could mean that they would be willing to travel any distance to get to the battleground.......



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Xenos Ravenbeack on 17 June 2001, 11:48:00
Okay... with all aproval I'm in favor of moving R'unor, scence its not yet upon the main map it whould be a simple manner of fixing the entrie.

Koldar got a location in mind?



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 17 June 2001, 13:08:00
Moving R'unor is still possible, because there don't exist too many references to its location currently. So go ahead, Xenos - move it!



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 17 June 2001, 13:20:00
I would suggest a location north of Nybelmar or within the Wernam archipelago.
As Nybelmar is planned as the continent of water the archipelago might nearly encircle it with R'unor at its northern edge.

Another option would be southeast of Nybelmar between Nybelmar and Aerrylium...

Will see if I can elaborate the Wernam archipelago and the position of the most important islands(Ferrath and R'unor) in context with Nybelmar during the next week. Hope this is soon enough.

An idea that just sprung to my mind about the Crimson Islands that lie there abandoned is to use them as some kind of holy place for the Aca-Santerran religion...

As R'unor depends on wheat imports I'll see if there might be some sources that might have gotten occupied by Aca-Santerra and were a reason for a little bloodshed? :)

Everything okay this way?

BTW: Don't expect from me too much as the next month will end in two weeks of terrible tests and exams. :)

Bye!


Koldar Mondrakken, Knight of the Moonlight



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Xenos Ravenbeack on 17 June 2001, 17:05:00
I whould prefir the northern edge as aposed to the southern but be creative, besides with the higher greenskin poulation in this area it makes more scence with R'unors speicies makeup.



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Gean Firefeet on 19 June 2001, 07:35:00
Sorry for my late reply, but it seems your choice has been mad e already. Very well, if some of your ships accidently pass by somewhere, make sure to notify me :evil   In the mean time have fun with Nybelmar ;)  



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Dala Valannia on 19 June 2001, 20:43:00
So poor Nybelmar's gonna do a Mexican stand-off with R'unor?? Did anyone even tell the Nybelmarians that a certain Firelance Machine is heading their way?? :lol  



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 20 June 2001, 07:08:00
Nope. And there are no Nybelmarians as there's no united kingdom on this continent but different realms.

One of them is Aca-Santerra, a High Kingdom of noble folks that is that arrogant but strong that they would be honored to wipe out this R'unorian scum but they'll be very, very angry that they're defeated! :)

In the end they should be able to equal R'unor, I think, and are able to destroy one/the only active firelance machine used against their island outposts.

But details still have to be discussed...

Don't feel pity for them as they're this kind of people who cannot imagine that there's someone equalling them in power and fighting skill and so need to get beaten up at some point in history! Otherwise they would stay that way!! :)




Koldar Mondrakken, Knight of the Moonlight



Title: Re: R'unor needs to have gone to war with someone at some ti
Post by: Dala Valannia on 21 June 2001, 10:09:00
Oh in that case, cheers! Continue with the senseless warring which will bring a deep and silent sense of satisfaction since both sides itching for a fight :)