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Title: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 20 September 2002, 21:55:00
Wow, have I been working a lot lately, no homework means more time means less time it takes to make things. In other words, I have finished another coat of arms. I have sent it to Art and I really hope you guys like this one.  :hat  

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Edited by: Finnael at: 9/20/02 5:23:04 am


Title: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Wren on 21 September 2002, 09:25:00
OOOH COOL!!

I can barely contain my excitement!!!!!!!!!!!!

Somebody please put me out of my misery!



Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 21 September 2002, 10:23:00
Here is the Aellenrhim candle:


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 9/27/02 7:14:50 pm


Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Wren on 21 September 2002, 10:27:00
It's very pink! I don't know how practical pink is for riding into war.....But I really like it!



Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 21 September 2002, 11:02:00
so is it ok or should I change the color?

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 21 September 2002, 13:48:00
Can you still change the color? If so, what color would you like, Wren?


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 21 September 2002, 21:22:00
I'll try.

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Wren on 22 September 2002, 09:24:00
Ohhhh......I'm not used to having a choice :)

Actually I was think that pink might present a tactical advantage. Picture the scene - war everywhere. The Aellenrhim march in singing happy birthday. All sides, worried they've forgotten some ones birthday stop fighiting and join in. The Aellenrhim can then quietly cut their heads off :)

I don't know.....even if you could just tone the pink down a little......but it's OK as it is.


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 22 September 2002, 09:37:00
soooo... should I change it???

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 22 September 2002, 13:07:00
I don't know but white and silver would suit an Elven tribe esspecially known for its science far better than brown and pink, I think.

The thing maybe not so good - for a Coat of Arms at least - is the perspective shown with the handle , maybe that should be more planar.

But that is, I only nitpick because you mean more work for me, using that stuff for 3D shields! ;)  

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 22 September 2002, 21:32:00
What, you havent heard of pink wax? jks

Ill see if I can change the colors. Im not definate that I can change them on this without redoing it, but ill try.

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 22 September 2002, 22:51:00
HA! Finnael can overcome any obstacle in his way!

I made the candle and holder gradiant silver and the flame, well, flame colored :D  . I am sending it to Art, I hope you guys like this one better.

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 25 September 2002, 13:15:00
Has not arrived yet here, Finnael! Forgot to mail it perhaps?


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 25 September 2002, 13:32:00
I did... agh.  Fine I'll send another one.

BTW: My homework has been becoming harder and longer and I have been having less free time to myself so I don't know if I will be doing anything much for a while.  

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Wren on 25 September 2002, 13:38:00
Heh - well if it sciencey you can email it to me and I'll do it for you :lol  



Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 28 September 2002, 12:15:00
I've exchanged the old pic with the silver version - see above:)  


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Gararion on 28 September 2002, 14:40:00
It looks good.  I don't know but it might be my screen but it seemed to have visable verticle lines.  But like I said it looks real good.


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 28 September 2002, 18:09:00
That's the gradient. Finnael, do you have ICQ/AIM? Don't know, next week I might have time.

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 28 September 2002, 21:30:00
66154141 ICQ

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Gararion on 28 September 2002, 22:36:00
I knew that.  It is just visable lines like that which are suppose to be smooth in flow kinda bother me.  Just a pet peeve.


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Wren on 29 September 2002, 12:13:00
Now that is just FABIEDOODLE!!!!!!!!! I love it. Perfect. Enough superlatives already???



Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 29 September 2002, 13:40:00
sorry about the gradiant lines,  it just appeared like that after i saved it once.

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 21 October 2002, 20:41:00
sooo... what is going on with this one???

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Wren on 22 October 2002, 14:29:00
*bounces impaitently*



Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 22 October 2002, 14:53:00
What? Who? Me? *hides*

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 23 October 2002, 14:31:00
Shoves Koldar into the dungeon, where his shield-making devices await..


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 04 November 2002, 19:32:00
UPDATED: Jan. 10, 2003

Here's the new version. I changed a couple things. First of all I redid the overall candle design and second it is not in 3d so that will make it easier for Koldar to make all shieldy or bannery. Thirdly I made the flame design-like instead of that other flame design I made. Hope you guys like it.



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Edited by: Finnael  at: 1/11/03 3:42:15 am


Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 12 November 2002, 13:04:00
Sorry, i haven't done this, yet. I've some problems realizing an exciting layout for the CoA. The candle is great but gets easily lost on a black background and that is possibly not what the Aellenrhim had in mind, I think they want to be the light that shines bright despite the darkness.


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 12 November 2002, 16:13:00
Hmmm... Isn't there a possibility to add a shine effect somehow through lightning? We might perhaps reduce the flame to the central yellow flame (remove the other bit aorund it), and try to apply a shining light effect, placed in the background. That possible?


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 12 November 2002, 19:50:00
I could definately remove the shading around the flame.



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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 14 November 2002, 15:14:00
Maybe you can try your hand on the design of another CoA till Koldar finds the time to work on the canlde-CoA, Finnael? - Wasn't ther something with a horse somewhere? Could be used for the Fal'cone Kuglim. Or just scan through the races forum to find another suiting motive...


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 14 November 2002, 16:17:00
Yes, it's for the Falcone Kuglim Tribe and Koldar has sent me a 3D version of it. If you want I can send you it.



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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 15 November 2002, 05:22:00
I'll see if I can upload a better verson of it. I couldn't improve the pole, etc... but I hope the cloth is now less bumpy...

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 15 November 2002, 15:40:00
Koldar man, the pole is nice. Don't worry about it :)  



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Title: elves people......
Post by: Wren in Audial mode on 16 November 2002, 16:54:00
The banner is fantastic, but peeps - ELVES!!!!!!!!

hmmm - maybe make the candle a little more abstract and 2D perhaps? Not that I don't love it how it is, but simplicity might make Koldar's job easier.

You ever seen those kinda Celtic suns, the have the central disk with big stripes of light eminating from them........ I'm no artist but maybe something like that from a central candle would work? No one has  a clue what I'm talking about do they? I'll see if I can dig one out.



Title: Re: elves people......
Post by: Finnael on 16 November 2002, 20:38:00
You mean like this?



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Title: Re: elves people......
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 17 November 2002, 02:27:00
Yeah, this "sun" looks wonderful:D  


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Title: Re: elves people......
Post by: Finnael on 17 November 2002, 12:47:00
ok, I'll redo the coa with this in it.
Koldar, do you still want the gradiant???



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Title: Re: elves people......
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 18 November 2002, 05:59:00
Huh? What gradient?
No gradients, they might look disturbing.

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Title: Re: elves people......
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 08 January 2003, 17:13:00
*does some Forum-digging*

Fiiiiiiiiiiinaaaaaaaaeeeeel!
Koooooooooldaaaaaaaaaar!

What has come from this, eh? You still alive, you two? How about using this new sun-like symbol, Finael, make flame and candle with sharp edges as good as possible (just like the symbol), as Koldar then can work best with the result and make a nice 3d shield from it?

*tries to reanimate Finnael*

Or did you get infected at Gerwon Tristin's death bed? Medics!!!!


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 1/7/03 11:14:52 pm


Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 09 January 2003, 00:58:00
:D  Actually I have come down with a case of "Holiday in Florida Disease". :D
I'll see what I can do. |I  *snore*



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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 11 January 2003, 22:02:00
Ok, new version entered.



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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Wren on 12 January 2003, 17:05:00
OH where where??

*Leaps in joy and expectation!*



Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 14 January 2003, 16:35:00
If you've missed it, Wren, it was buried within the thread. Here it is again:



Guess it look ok, and sure is easier this way for Koldar to convert into a 3d shield. I personally would suggest to make the part around the flame more like the "sun" thingy you've posted. Guess this would fit a bit better.

Unfortunately Koldar is busy with his exams in the next month, so we again have to wait for him to return to get this done....


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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Wren on 14 January 2003, 17:47:00
Candle is fabbie :)  Perfect, but yeah a bigger halo, maybe two toned (yellow and orange) Am I being really annoying?

Sorry!



Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 14 February 2003, 18:15:00
Im back for a bit, but only long enough to show my updates. Here is the updated version of it.



Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 14 February 2003, 18:34:00
I like it for its more stylized appearance. I'd sharpen the edges of this lighte circle around the flame and the flame itsself. It's a bit too blurry at the moment. Otherwise cool.

Quick question, what kind of shield shape do these elves use, Wren? That'd be important for a border like the yellow one.

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Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Finnael on 14 February 2003, 19:26:00
Ack, cant integrate it into old post. Wasn't logged in. (Updated Version Feb.14, 2003)



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Edited by: Finnael  at: 2/15/03 5:46:54 pm


Title: Re: Aellenrhim Coat of Arms
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 02 March 2003, 09:27:00
Quick question. Finnael does the golden border mean that you want the Aellenrhim shield being rectangular? Otherwise the golden border should follow the shield shape so it does not interrupt the shield.

Currently playing around with the version. Only suggestion I'd have is to work on the light cone of the candle, if possible. It is rather pixelated which does not look too well when used as texture...

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Title: err
Post by: Wren on 04 March 2003, 09:12:00
Is it just my puter or is the first version  identical to the second?



Title: Re: err
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 04 March 2003, 14:48:00
The circle of light is larger on version no2, Wren...

Still here, Finnael? I guess the enlargement blured the whole thing, that's why it's not good to use. You would need to do the circle again, and keep it sharp (like at the other shield), otherwise the 3d effects don't look good...


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 3/3/03 8:54:13 pm


Title: mahhhh
Post by: Wren on 09 March 2003, 17:17:00
The piccies have gone down.

I was just going to have a little play with them on photoshop too!:(  



Title: Re: mahhhh
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 10 March 2003, 02:17:00
Here's Wren' re-modeled version, which I think turned out very fine:D   Sure, the idea would be needed to be realized properly by someone with better Photoshop skills, but I guess the design is no wonderful and represents exactly what the Aellenrhim stand for;)  


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 3/9/03 8:18:10 am


Title: Re: mahhhh
Post by: Wren on 10 March 2003, 06:30:00
Koldie - I'm happy for the shield to be rectangular, but as long as the surface is curved. So if you laid it face up on the ground it would make an arc and if you placed it face down it would be a bit like a boat.......

Have I made myself clear in anyway shape or form?? Like the Roman Centurion shields......



Title: Re: mahhhh
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 10 March 2003, 08:20:00
Hmmm... I'd head for making it oval. Rectangular does not sound too elvish to me..

BTW: Wren could we talk about elvish design prefs. I have been talking with Art and thought that it would be good to eventually to make the elvish CoA more conform so they all look more like done by one certain culture?
I thought that maybe more stylized, Greek-like appearance would be fitting.


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Title: hmmmmm
Post by: Wren on 10 March 2003, 13:47:00
Can we keep the greek for humans...... Think celtic - flowing interlocking lives repreenting the continuum of life. Elves are the only race to believe in reincarnation you know......

I don't know celtic art with its Oak groves seem more fitting for an elven culture somehow. Plus think how great it would look with those Mira shim runes....After all the Allenrhim are home to those runes!

That's why I quite like the oval inside the retangle! You can add little celticy swirls to the corners.....

Plus it gives more darkness, other wise there is very little darkness on the shield and two WHY!?!? isn't a retangle ver elven? Is there an unwritten rule that says elves can't be geometric? I think that as long as its a curve retangle its OK.....



Title: Re: hmmmmm
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 10 March 2003, 16:08:00
Hmmm... celtic sounds good, too, though if you could give me more inputs on celtic designs I'd be eternally grateful. Have not much knowledge about this culture. :)

Well, my thinking was more that rectangular shields are majorily used by heavy infantry and that sounds rather unelvish to me. I thought oval shields with various stylistic quirks(like with pointy ends, or a half moon carving  hole on one side of the shield)  and variations might be interesting way for them.
I was thinking about a distinctive shield sheme compared to the "traditional" shapes most human tribes(esspecially the Santharian ones), have...  


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Title: ok
Post by: Wren on 11 March 2003, 17:00:00
Hmmmm - OK, well I leave it up to you what you do with it then.



Title: ok
Post by: Wren on 11 March 2003, 18:05:00
You know we were talking about mottos koldie?

Well the three sheilds we do have (Ylfferhim, Tetherhim and Astyrhim) all have a rune or other on - just one - that stands for something.....

How about we stick to that? Rather like some far eastern art are decorated with characters that mean things like happiness, ect.....



Title: very nice
Post by: Finnael on 18 March 2003, 22:58:00
Thats a good idea for a new version of the design Art. I think that we should make it circular rectangle as wren said, ill see what i can do, i have a little bit of time on my hands so i can do a couple changes :)