Santharian Development

Santharian World Development => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: RhyshanLord on 11 January 2001, 21:11:00



Title: The Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 11 January 2001, 21:11:00
The Rhyshan are a mysterious race that live in the caves deep in the mountains of the Crimson Isles. They once were a united race, with a single leader, named Kharda, he was killed by a creature in the mountains, and the entire race split into hundreds of seperate clans(I`ll get a list up ASAP).

  The Rhyshan`s are cloaked right after birth, so no one outside of their race knows what they truely look like, the cloaks they wear reach down to their knees, they have no feet, so, they take longer to learn to walk, but when they to learn to walk, they eventually can run as fast as a cheetah.

  They are seldom known to anyone but elves, and a few men. Their different clans survive by hunting the wolves that roam the mountains, because of this need to hunt, they are extremely skilled at it. Some Rhyshan are gifted with powerful magic, but if such a thing happens, they are thrown out of the clan the day are they are able to walk, for the leader`s fear that the ones with magic have the power to strip them of their command.

  As soon as I figure out more about them, their history and culture, I will post another report.



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 12 January 2001, 14:41:00
Sounds interesting too. Now we should somehow decide where the Crimson Isles should be placed in the Aér'aí'chánian world and how big they will be in comparison to other lands. Not so easy cause the overall map in the Maps section is not very accurate currently (Isles of R'unor aren't displayed e.g.) and the continents of Akdor and Cyhalloi will move a bit. Anyway, I'm open for proposals.



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 12 January 2001, 16:59:00
Off the coast of the Akdor continent? bout as big as Denilou

Edited by: RhyshanLord at: 1/11/01 11:01:15 pm


Title: The Story
Post by: RhyshanLord on 12 January 2001, 17:12:00
The story for the Rhyshan is set in the Crimson Isles, 6 Rhyshan are thrown out of their tribe(name pending) because they tried to warn the leader that a creature called Leviathan((like a sea monster, sorta like the ones from the FF series)), and they have to stop it before it destroys the crimson Isles



Title: Re: The Story
Post by: GeneralThorongilKyreal on 12 January 2001, 20:22:00
Hey Ryshan Lord...if you want we can set up a time when we are both online together, and i'll help you if you feel you need it. I think you got a good idea here...keep it up, and e-mail me if ya wanna take me up on my offer. =)

Thorongil Kyreal



Title: Re: The Story
Post by: Greybark on 12 January 2001, 21:17:00
"Akdor and Cyhalloi will move a bit"
er....where are they moving to?



Title: Re: The Story
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 13 January 2001, 16:30:00
Akdor and Cyhalloi are placed on two gigantic turtle swimming towards the northwest and will sometimes fall off the edge of the world. Well, ok, turtles are already used as a mythological means at Pratchett, so maybe you could think about something else? How about a whale? What do you say, Grey? This possibility would also have some biblical references...

:lol  - Do you really believe everything I'm writing when the day gets longer? *grin* No, Greybark, the continents will just move a bit north or south when placed on the final world map. Currently they are just placed somewhere in order to fit into the square at the map section. I guess god also wouldn't just place continents into squares, eh? ;)  



Title: Re: The Story
Post by: RhyshanLord on 13 January 2001, 19:09:00
Since the map didn`t reach you, I`d like to take time to draw a more detailed sketch, ok?



Title: Re: The Story
Post by: GeneralThorongilKyreal on 13 January 2001, 20:52:00
If you would, when you've finished....please send me a copy as well of both maps...The Isle of Wrath, as well as The Crimson Isles so i can integrate my stories with both of them.

My Most Sincerest Thanks

Thorongil Kyreal



Title: Map
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 14 January 2001, 04:08:00
Just take your time! The more detailed the better.



Title: Re: Map
Post by: RhyshanLord on 14 January 2001, 14:48:00
Alright, I`m almost done with the Crimson Isles, and I just need to add a few things to the Isle of Wrath Map



Title: Re: Map
Post by: RhyshanLord on 15 January 2001, 13:23:00
and I`ve also got this area I`m working on, a continent called Alandra, I wasn`t oringally going to use it for Santharia, but I scrapped the story that went with it, so when I finish it, would you be interested in seeing the sketch?



Title: Re: Map
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 15 January 2001, 13:47:00
In case you'd like to integrate it into the Santharian case, I'd like to have a look. Note that there's a continent to the west of the Sarvonian continent currently named "Nybelmar". Although there exists a rough map sketch of Cylisril at the Library this sketch will be neglected in the final map version as Cylisril hasn't shown up for several months in Santharia. Therefore we have a place for a continent to spare and if necessary we can re-name the continent too (or the inhabitants use another term for their land than other people so that we can actually use both names). However, new members will have to work with the existing material then. 6 continents - that's it!



Title: Re: Map
Post by: Greybark on 15 January 2001, 22:42:00
.....hmmm. Continents on the backs of turtles. That would help to explain the strange aftertaste in my last bowl of turtle soup.... :)



Title: A small idea
Post by: RhyshanLord on 18 January 2001, 15:52:00
I have a request, according to the oringal idea for the Rhyshan, they worshiped a minor god, could you make this an official god?



Title: Re: A small idea
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 18 January 2001, 17:36:00
Could you be more precise about this minor god? Is it a religion of monotheism? I recommend that you make a Compendium entry for the beliefs of the Rhyshan, which I then can put on the site. It would also be interesting to know how the religion of the Rhyshan developed and how the Rhyshan settled on the island.

However, Santharian humans have 12 gods which is an unchangeable number. The elves also believe in 2 High Gods dedicated to light and Darkness. It is also possible that the Rhyshan pick one of these gods and adore them as the one and only (and naming him/her different), of course having some other myth associated to it.

Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 1/17/01 11:38:34 pm


Title: Re: A small idea
Post by: RhyshanLord on 18 January 2001, 20:20:00
The Rhyshan never really settled in the Isles, they just woke up in the darkness of the caves, surrounded by bats, they thought the bats had saved them from a danger they could not remember, and they began to began to believe in a bat like god, which they named Diablos.



Title: Re: A small idea
Post by: Greybark on 19 January 2001, 02:59:00
Diablos....sounds familiar, somehow.
Different gods for the different races already has two precedents, with the Gnomes and with the Brownies. All you need to do is describe it fully. I usually include a sentance as to why the elven/human gods are irrevant to them.



Title: Re: A small idea
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 19 January 2001, 13:27:00
Well, I guess it's ok that the Rhyshan have a myth sounding like the one you described. Of course the elven myth in the "Cárpa'dosía" differs. They deduce all from the Mother of All, the Tree of Life and are convinced that the races sprang from the Rain of Life, spreading in all directions etc. Maybe the Rhyshan tribe is mentioned in the "Cárpa'dosía" somewhere with a bit of another story, but only hinting how the Rhyshan could have settled there. Well, myths always have more than one side.

Concerning the name "Diablos": I fear there are too much games, cults, pizzas (well, there's at least a "Diabolo" version as I can remember) out there, which is why I recommend to use another name for the god, something completely unique. - That possible?

P.S. I'd still need some Team information from you to put it on the site, RhyshanLord!



Title: Re: A small idea
Post by: RhyshanLord on 19 January 2001, 17:57:00
Team info`ll be a problem.....parents><, they are EXTREMELY strict about giving away info, so :P to them--



Title: A change for the Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 19 January 2001, 18:02:00
I`m starting to hate the cloak Idea. Instead I got a new idea, shorter, bout 4 feet tall average, sort of slimey skin, very skinny, and a rounded head, kinda sticking out of the back of the head(still keeping the no feet idea, no clue why). So, everyone tell me what you think bout the idea.

Edited by: RhyshanLord at: 1/19/01 4:05:06 am


Title: Re: A change for the Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 19 January 2001, 22:13:00
Your parents are smart....a lot of strange things on the web.....some of the info I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem with, however. Favorite books, etc...



Title: Re: A change for the Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 19 January 2001, 23:58:00
What do ya think bout the new idea for the Rhyshan though?



Title: Re: A change for the Rhyshan
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 20 January 2001, 14:24:00
No problem with the another Rhyshan concept, but still can't figure out exactly what it means to see someone with "a rounded head, kinda sticking out of the back of the head" - what's in fact sticking out of the back of the head? The head? *grin* Maybe a bit precision here would be fine...

And I can only agree with Greybark: If people know that you are at home somewhere in the US, like Terry Brooks and love to play Diablo that would suffice I guess:)  



Title: Re: A change for the Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 20 January 2001, 14:46:00
What I meant is, a ball shaped head, kinda of smashed down from the top, also long(I cant really think of a way to describe what I meant by sticking out, if you have seen the Movie "Alien", kinda like that, but not that long)



Title: Re: A change for the Rhyshan
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 20 January 2001, 14:53:00
Ah, ok, I see. Granted. But without Sigourney Weaver this time, I guess...



Title: Re: A change for the Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 20 January 2001, 22:40:00
Races are multiplying! :)
I like, but needs more detail. Example: Why no feet?



Title: Re: A change for the Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 20 January 2001, 22:57:00
No Idea, I was just tired as $@#@, and got the idea, if you have any suggestions, send!



Title: Re: A change for the Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 21 January 2001, 11:42:00
I`ve got 2 ideas for the origin of the Rhyshan, and I thought I`d let the other members decide which one I should use...
1)They wandered in from the Etherial Void, and fled to the Crimson Isles, trying to escape the peoples of the world as they attacked them in fear.
2)They were bred by a mage during the War of the Chosen, then rebelled, killing their master. The one Kharda the Great lead them to the Crimson Isles, were he was crowned their king.
Well, I`ll let you guys take it from here.

Rhyshan Lord



Title: The Galons
Post by: RhyshanLord on 21 January 2001, 19:34:00
My head is just filled with too many dang ideas--.

  The Galons are a race of giant people, a Galon`s average height is 12 feet. They live deep in forest, living mostly on a diet of tree roots leaves(they also use plants to make clothes). They are extremely skilled with healing magic and spears. The Galons never leave the forests they live in unless something happens that threaghtens them. They are friendly with elves. Most of their population is male, so it is common for a woman to bear the child of more than one man.

This is all I know so far,

Rhyshan Lord(let me know if I should just scrap it)



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 22 January 2001, 02:33:00
If anyone is interested in drawing a picture for the Rhyshan, please contact me.



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 22 January 2001, 03:15:00
Galons idea also sounds workable. I like the idea of giants being friendly, withdrawn somewhere in the woods and skilled with healing magic! Somehow I guess the main reason for this is that I watched "The Green Mile" yesterday on DVD - and obviously John Coffey was such a Galon;)     (BTW: Really recommendable movie and another excellent role of Tom Hanks!)

I'd suggest that you elaborate on the Galons, but try to stick on the scheme we used for other races in the Races section!

Hmmm... Maybe we could use the picture for the Galons Faugar once made as a troll version? The guy on the pic looks pretty friendly, I guess, so he may be interpreted as a Galon, too - what do you think?

Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 1/21/01 10:09:39 am


Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 22 January 2001, 13:37:00
Yeah, I think that would be a great pic for them(now me`s only gotta find a Rhyshan one....)And I already saw the Green Mile.



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 22 January 2001, 21:39:00
I would like to inform everyone I`ll soon be getting a new account on ezboard, the name is "Kharda the Great"



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 23 January 2001, 00:43:00
I like the idea of them wandering in through te etherial void....If you'd like them to wander it right through the void Brownies in Aeolia (just an option), we can work together on that! :)



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: RhyshanLord on 23 January 2001, 15:56:00
They could possibly become friends with the brownies?



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 23 January 2001, 16:15:00
Well, I switched to my new account, and lost my level...--



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 23 January 2001, 21:37:00
quite possible....but different part of the world than you're talking them living in. If you look at the map, the farthest south is where the Void Brownies live. Santharia is a continent to the north. If they dislike desert climate, the Brownies could help them move north?



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 23 January 2001, 23:28:00
kk(and, maybe a few of them go with the Rhyshan....?



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 23 January 2001, 23:35:00
ah, you would like some Brownies! What are your thoughts?



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 24 January 2001, 18:42:00
After the Brownies help them cross the desert, a few of them decide to go with the Rhyshan?(and I have to know, in the Scions of Shannara, is Rimmer Dall a shadowen or not!?



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 25 January 2001, 11:51:00
Yes, he is.
Now the real question is, is Ohmsford?

What I mean with the Brownies is, what were your thoughts for after they arrive on the Crimson Isles (or wherever they are going), if they do come with the Ryshan?



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 25 January 2001, 20:52:00
they decide to stay and help the Rhyshan, and eventually decide to stay?(I`m not really good with ideas....all my thoughts are going into this "Ancients" Idea, which is connected with the Origin of the Rhyshan.



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 25 January 2001, 22:23:00
What I mean is, if we end up going with this idea, what role would they play in your island's society?  



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 26 January 2001, 16:42:00
They would be like.....the teachers, kinda of educating the Rhyshan about the world.(Since they did walk in through the void) Otherwise I dont know ^^;, any of your ideas are welcome though!^^;;;;;;;;



Title: Idea(I get 2 many!)
Post by: Kharda the Great on 27 January 2001, 20:03:00
Well, I have been getting this idea...of a series of connect islands floating in the skies of a realm reached through the Ethrenal Void, the Isles of the Ancients(I`m not releasing info on this idea til I`m done) If you`re interested in seeing the sketch just say so



Title: Re: Idea(I get 2 many!)
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 28 January 2001, 10:56:00
Now that's indeed funny: I had similar ideas sometime and I planned to integrate it on Book II or III of the Avaesthoría. However, that was just an idea and I have nothing elaborated in this context. Just go on with it, Kharda. It would be interesting to hear more details...

Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 1/27/01 4:58:01 pm


Title: Re: Idea(I get 2 many!)
Post by: Kharda the Great on 28 January 2001, 11:18:00
Well....OK, I`ll let some of the Ancients ideas leak out. just enough so I can get the Isles description in full. The Ancients are seven beings created long ago to guard the Isles of the Ancients, a realm floating in it`s own plain of existance, only reachable through the Ethernal Void. Seven were created, but only 3 of them made it through the passage of the void alive. The ones that survived.....Rahl, Kazad, and Druin buried the others on the isles. They began construction of the Halls of Ancients, and then constructed a tower over the other bodies, to protect them. Rahl begin searching the rest of the Isles, before they had gotten there, the inhabitants had been killed. And So he gave birth to a new Race, the Rhyshan...(Actually position later, I cant find the map !!><!!)



Title: Re: Idea(I get 2 many!)
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 29 January 2001, 03:31:00
Nice concept with interesting ideas, however, there are still unanswered questions, e.g. why didn't four of the Ancients make it through the Etherial Void? Who created them? What exactly are they guarding? To "guard the Isles of the Ancients" is not very precise cause this would only mean that they are guarding their own isles - the isles should have a major importantance for the complete world somehow. And who are these inhabitants you speak of? From where did they come, what was their purpose? And why did they die?

Questions, questions, questions...



Title: Re: Idea(I get 2 many!)
Post by: Greybark on 29 January 2001, 10:08:00
and why did they go to this floating island world, rather than the many others they could have gotten to through the etherial void?



Title: Re: Idea(I get 2 many!)
Post by: Kharda the Great on 29 January 2001, 16:24:00
The Ancients that died were killed by a shadow, something they could not see, it snuck up on the from behind and killed the four, the other three tried to kill it, but they couldn`t, so they grabbed the others(not knowing they were dead), and ran. They were not created, they were just, "there" at that beginning. They are guarding the Isles because they are linked with the main world by magic, if they are destroyed, the link will be broken, and the real world will be destroyed as well. They were High Elves, the former guardians of the Isles, they were killed by the same creature that attacked the Ancients, the creature was sent by Coôr(or what ever, I dont know the symbol thingies on the keyboard by heart) to destroy the Isles guardians so he could attack the Isle.



Title: Re: Idea(I get 2 many!)
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 30 January 2001, 14:09:00
Sounds good. Could be integrated in a larger mythological story at the beginning of the "Mène'téka" (the mythological stories), following the "Cárpa'dosía" (the myths of the creation of the world). More details would be welcomed. The more elaborated the better.



Title: AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT..
Post by: Faugar on 01 February 2001, 07:13:00
About that Rhyshan picture.. I just rea this entire thread, and had a feeling they're not entirely.. materialised yet (if you know what I mean). So I think it's best if I wait until there's a description of them in the race section, and try to draw them then. Beacause even the thing WHERE their habitat is, is important (like for the background).
Also, it's nice there're some new beasts coming up (from Mikael).. just a thought - are all those fabolus beasts integrated somwhere in the other stories? Like some character (who's entry is in ppl section) was ever eaten by some beast, or at least ever came in contact with them, or some other story where those beasts ever play a role in? It would be marvellous if, when reading a story, you would read about some animal/person/god, and then just go to the compendium to read a more detailed description/look at a picture of it! I mean - there should be more connections in all this, right? That's what makes the story seem more real and interesting. Anyway.. I still have to do that wind goddess with the baby...



Title: Re: AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT..
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 01 February 2001, 13:21:00
Yeah, have to agree with Faugar: We need finished descriptions for drawings - makes it much easier for the artist, and the result will be much more accurate then.

Integrating beasts etc.: Yup, I encourage that! Let me note that the Netherbeasts are already contained in Chapter I of the Avaesthoría (german version) - so I will put a picture there. Also the Giant Spider you can see at Mikael's latest update will play a role in the Avaesthoría, Chapter IX. And of course the famous bloodworm: Chapter VIII of the Avaesthoría (unfortunately all in german).

But what are you waiting for, guys! We have cool drawings, so try to use them whereever you can... Thanx for pointing out, Faugar!



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 06 February 2001, 17:38:00
I am going to be printing out all of the Santharian history, then I will work on the history of the Rhyshan, Galons, and the Ancients, in other words, I wont be posting for a while. :(  



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 07 February 2001, 02:16:00
Maybe you'd like to print out Brownie History too? (in serious need of updating tho....



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 07 February 2001, 14:31:00
Okeydokey - see you later, Kharda - hope you like the map:)  



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 07 February 2001, 15:58:00
Once again I am breaking my silence, I hate to be picky bout the map(either you misread it, or I left a few things out, and If I did, then I apolofize), but the river is supposed to be "Linfalas River"(the one on the east isle and the mountains on the east Isle are supposed to be the 3 spires



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 07 February 2001, 17:25:00
Okeydokey. Will change that. Maybe I'm just a bit blind:)  



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 07 February 2001, 21:08:00
OK! So I cant stay away from the site for a long time, well, thats a good thing, right? I am trying to make a 1st Version for the Rhyshan Language, and..this is kinda my first time attempting a language, I could use a bit of help.....if anyone can spare it. ^^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 07 February 2001, 21:29:00
I'll post some internet language resources here for you soon....Browniin is also my first attempt at a real language.



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 09 February 2001, 22:00:00
Is it okay if I use the Brownie history to write how they help the Rhyshan, then send it to you for approval?



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Greybark on 09 February 2001, 22:25:00
hmmmm....I'm not convinced yet that that idea works....but yes, please, send me your ideas, and we'll figure out something :)



Title: Re: The Rhyshan
Post by: Kharda the Great on 10 February 2001, 13:14:00
My idea is simple, Coór descends upon the Isle of the Ages(Isles of the Ancients, I like Ages better), and The three remaining ancients send the Rhyshan through the void, they make it through and are badly injured, and the Brownies decide to help them cross the deserts. When they reach the edge of the desert, about 10 Brownies decide to go with the Rhyshan for good. (If you want more details, I need time to think ^^;;;;;;;;

Edited by: Kharda the Great at: 2/10/01 4:52:45 am


Title: The Galons
Post by: Kharda the Great on 10 February 2001, 22:50:00
As for the Galons, know clue about origin and stuff, I`m having trouble for this with them, any suggestions welcome ^^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;



Title: Re: The Galons
Post by: Kharda the Great on 10 February 2001, 22:58:00
Umm....Greybark! please tell me, Is Ohmsford a Shadowen or not!? :: Drops to his knees and begs ::

Edited by: Kharda the Great  at: 2/10/01 4:59:53 am


Title: Re: The Galons
Post by: Greybark on 11 February 2001, 01:35:00
I like what you have so far, but want to find out what generally what they will be *doing* for the next thousand years or so. Teaching is great for the first few years, but then what?



Title: Re: The Galons
Post by: Kharda the Great on 11 February 2001, 15:52:00
I dont know, they..began their own clan in the isles?



Title: Re: The Galons
Post by: Greybark on 12 February 2001, 11:08:00
But what type of culture would the Rhyshan have? And how would the Brownies be a part of it, or relate to it, or whatever, in the long term?



Title: Re: The Galons
Post by: Kharda the Great on 02 March 2001, 17:24:00
I am sorry for being inactive, and I STILL haven`t finished Rhyshan/Ancients/Galons history. I have been working on an RPG I`m starting, I`m getting in big doo-doo in school(:'( ), and my parents are threaghening(or however you spell it!) to take away my internet access.  (X.X)So, I`ll try and catach up on everything I didn`t do when I was being a lazy snot.  C ya later