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Santharian World Development => The Santharian Bestiary => Topic started by: Rayne (Alr) on 16 December 2002, 06:36:00



Title: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 16 December 2002, 06:36:00
stumbles in, drunk on weariness. Woo.. Dizziness @_@; I tried to Categorize aminals. Um. There are a lot that have yet to be placed. I was thinking about a group of animals that aided sorcerors. Such animals might include imps and golems, but I wasn't quite sure about the name. I tried to not go over two words in the name. It was hard. I was also wondering if Zyloths are reptiles or not.
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AMPHIBIANS
Bogsnapper
Rubit

ARACHNIDS
Crystal Spider
Giant Spider
Scorpion

BIRDS
Al'Syrr
Banded Ricau
Blue Glitra
Cuuloo
Garthook
Haloen
Howler Goose
Kingell
Injh
Mathmoor
Nightbird
Psitta (Chatterbird)
Taenish
Wood Owl
Verhon

BEARS
Bear, Argrothin
Bear, Cartashian
White Bear

CATS
Hern
Ju'bat
Milari
Oracau
Pard
Shingar

COMBINATION - Animals that are pretty much made up of parts of other animals
Gryphon
Gryph
Horsefay
Manticore

DEER
Aj'Nuvic (This the category I thought best suited it.
Black Hart, Santhalian
Prieta
Starback
White Deer, Sarvon.

DEMONS
Chasm Demon
Gamosh-Ra
Jhulnyor
Mephgur
Mhorashty
Sephet
Tam-Rek
Ti'Hi
Venazla
Wraith

DOGS
Cro'cuta
Hunting Hound
Ly'can
Zeiphyr. Hunting Hound

DRAGONS
* Great Drakes
Fire Dragon
Frost Dragon
Gold Dragon
Horned Dragon
Ice Dragon
Sea Dragon
Shapechanger Dragon
Spirit Dragon
* Lesser Drakes
Desert Drake
Dravilonia
Earth Drake
Horned Drake
Wyvern, Feathered

FISH
Ancythrian Shark
Barsa
Bonehead
Ceh'Fish
Evoor
Khendochar
Mithanjor
Nyjae
Yellowtail

FLYING MAMMALS
Bat

GOATS
Capricus
Goat, Domestic
Hynde

INSECTS
Dalr
Feylien
Lu'an Moth
Malise
Mercarto Fly
Orm
Quill'Efr
Red Diamond Butterfly
Whistling Beetle
White Spiral Butterfly

MAGICAL BEASTS
Golem
Imp
Netherbeasts
Zombii

MOLLUSKS
Giant Kraken
Oyster
Tryster

MYTHICAL
Centaur
Chimaera
Kiivosh
Phoenix
Unicorn

PIGS/BOAR
Wild Pig
Woolly Boar

REPTILES
Chomas
Dragon Fly
Drell
Exechon
Giant Rock Snake
O'quadar Riding Snake
Ranlesh
Sand Viper
Spiderturtle
Tsor Shotak

RODENTS
* Mice
Dune Mouse
Field Mouse
* Rabbits/Hares
Leapor
Tarep
* Rats
Giant Rat
Vilerat
* Other
Quallian Ss'nen

UNDEFINED having no defined shape
Inca Tati Shapeshifter
Mystran
Spyder (because only sorcerors and such could only see their true shape, I thought they might go here. They usually look like whisps, right?)
Will'o'Wisp

UTILIZABLE ANIMALS
* Cows
Strata Milking Cow
* Horses
Kev'lor Horse
Rusik Horse
* Others
Havach Ox
Ulgaroth
* Sheep
Cuncu Sheep
Dor'iyn Sheep
Sawis Sheep

WATER MAMMALS
Dolpholk
Whale

WOLVES
Ashmarian Wolves
Warg

WORMS
Bloodworm
Etherus Worm
Pit Worm
Ska'Kailn

TBP = To Be Placed
- Drasil
- Flunki
- Great Wolverine
- Izaac
- Mimsy
- Mogliar
- Nul'tum
- Zyloth (Maybe Reptiles?)

Edited by: Rayne Avalotus  at: 12/16/02 7:07:48 am


Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 16 December 2002, 10:29:00
you have a water mammals and a flying mammals section...why not just have a "uncategorized" mammals section...the flunki could go in there...the wolverine too probably...

just a thought...looks really good though

Tyrian Jadewalker



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 16 December 2002, 10:51:00
Many than for your categorization, Rayne! Very nice work:)

Suggestions: We can have a section  for "Rodents", where we can put in both Mice and Rats as sub-categories.

Also would suggest to put Horses and Cows in an own section. In german we'd say "Nutztiere" (but Altavista only translates this to "Utilizable animals" - maybe there is a better term?).

As for golems, imps etc.  - would put them simply under "Magical Beasts".


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 12/15/02 4:55:16 pm


Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 16 December 2002, 11:20:00
"domesticated animals" or something?

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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 16 December 2002, 12:27:00
domesticated refers to anything that has been tamed really...so dogs and cats (house cats anywho) would belong in there as well...i think domesticated would be too general but it could be used...plus there are some categories that would fall under domesticated and non-domesticated...if you had a domesticated pig as an animal (like a pig in farms on earth) than pigs should be under the domesticated section but i am sure you do not want wild pigs and wild boars under that section...

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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 16 December 2002, 16:37:00
1) I'd rather not combine the Flying Mammals and Water Mammals into one. Yes, at the moment, the groups don't have a lot of entries, but you have to keep in mind that Santharia is still growing and expanding. It may be that those categories might gain entries. I also think just throwing them into "Uncategorized Mammals" seems a bit messy.

2) I added a rodents Section, Arti, including Mice, Rats, and also Rabbits/Hares, since they are also technically Rodents.

3) I added the "Utilizable Animals" and aded horses, cows, and also the Ox we had in the TBP section. I wasn't sure if sheep would fall into that category or not, so I just added them in just in case. I was thinking goats, too, but some goats are wild.

4) I added Magical Beasts. I'm only a bit fearful that some of the Combination and Mythical animals might also be magically inclined.~_~'' Help.

5) Domesticated animals wouldn't work for a section because it would end up splittting up species that shouldn't be split up e.g. Caprici (WIld Goats) and Domesticated Goats. I think we should try to classify than more bsed on species than on function, if we can.



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Fox on 16 December 2002, 18:08:00
For Magical Beasts... I believe a better term would be Familiars... as that is what mage 'pets' are called, normally. Plus I think it sounds better... but... eh... *shrugs*



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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 16 December 2002, 22:42:00
my suggestion wasn't to combine water and air mammals...it was simply to say that we already had those so why not just have a "general" mammal section....just call it plain mammals...rather than refering to things as uncategorized you could have 4 or 5 major groupings then break it down into seperate things after that...

for example:

Mammals
Fish
Reptiles
Amphibians
Birds
Magical/Mythical

then in the mammals section it could be broken down into Land Sea and Air...then broken down into Rodents/Cows/Goats and the like...

this setup that i am suggesting here would be completely lopsided at the present time in favour of mammals since their section would be so big...but in the future if things were developed to around the same number then things would expand...

plus this could also be added as something that you need to think of before you create a beast

Tyrian Jadewalker



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 16 December 2002, 23:29:00
::sticks Marsupials in there somewhere::

Things like Manticores and Griffons that are a combination of animals might be hard to place. If Arti likes it, I'll be happy to categorize it that way, though.



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Finnael on 17 December 2002, 00:02:00
This is what I think for the To Be Placed animals:


The Izaac should be under mammals

The Bogsnapper should be under amphibians

The Mimsy would be a rodent

The Flunki would be a rodent

The Great Wolverine should be under combined because it is like a wolf but sort of a bear or maybe it should go under wolves

The Mogliar maybe should go under mammals

Netherbeasts are definately magical beasts

The Nul'tum should probably be under amphibians

The Quallian Ss'nen should be under rodents

The Ulgaroth could go under utilizable animals

Zombiis would be definately magical because they can only come alive through magic

and Zyloths could go under reptiles.



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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 17 December 2002, 01:01:00
There isn't a Mammals section as of yet. Mimsy seems very fox-like to me. I don't know if you woudl consider them rodents. The Flunky is like a porcupine, right? It might go under rodents. Nul'tum has fer, and thus wouldn't be an amphibian. Are we sure that the Zyloth is a reptile?



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Finnael on 17 December 2002, 15:45:00
Zyloth would most likely go under that and in the Nul'tum entry it says that it is an amphibian. As for the other things, thats just what I thought.



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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 17 December 2002, 18:25:00
The Nul'tum entry says it is amphibious, not amphibian. An Amphibian is an actually category. Amphibious just means it can live both in and out of water. The platypus would be considered an amphibious animal because it lives in both water and on land, but it is technically a... marsupial, I think.

And I'd like to make sure Zyloth's are repitles.



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Viresse on 18 December 2002, 02:00:00
So cyoot!
There was something I was gonna say, but uhm... I forgot.


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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 18 December 2002, 10:15:00
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Edited by: Tyrian Jadewalker at: 12/18/02 4:34:32 pm


Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 18 December 2002, 12:13:00
The Aj'nuvic isn't a deer, it has paws and feeds of meat as well, a mammal yes, otherwise no cathegory. I tried hard that it wouldn't fit in any of our known schemes!
and isn't the Nul'tum a mammal as well? (Have to reread it!)
Btw, if an update for the Nul'tum is necessary, I would like to put it in my to do list.:rolleyes  



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 18 December 2002, 13:48:00
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Edited by: Tyrian Jadewalker at: 12/18/02 4:32:52 pm


Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Finnael on 18 December 2002, 15:41:00
That looks good except... The Izaac is possible unisex animal. But a mammal nonetheless. You could maybe make a section for this kind of mammal.



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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 18 December 2002, 18:17:00
The only think I think is a bit off is that.. well.. Annelids and Echinoderms and even Anthropods sounds a bit too formal for Santharia.

Also, um.. you moves stuff around that shouldn't have been moved around. ~_~;; And you broke up groups that Arti had requested, like the Utilizable animals



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 18 December 2002, 20:06:00
it was simply a suggestion...i knew the terms were too advanced for santharia...but the question here is whether we want to break this up in terms of santharian people looking at it or us looking at it?

Tyrian Jadewalker

Edited by: Tyrian Jadewalker at: 12/18/02 4:35:42 pm


Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Greybark on 18 December 2002, 21:29:00
I vote for us looking at it: I mean, we're the ones that have to *find* what we're looking for.


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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 18 December 2002, 22:47:00
that was my way of looking at it to greybark...that's why i had them split like that...

the only reason i made this suggestion was that you could more easily classify animals because if you have a mammal that is not in any of the other categories you could just put it in the mammals section...

was just a possible alternative to just listing them all...

Tyrian Jadewalker

Edited by: Tyrian Jadewalker at: 12/18/02 4:36:08 pm


Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 18 December 2002, 22:58:00
If the site was meant for us, we would be able to use words like "genes" and "chemicals" and "vitamins," but we aren't. Besides, there are probably some kids who don't really know what all the terms mean. The only when you would know what these things were would be if you had taken Biology. Biology tends to be a High school class taught in Freshman or Sophmore year.

I started RPing in seventh or eighth grade, not here, but somewhere else. The point is that there might be some people who won't understand the terms. I think we need to keep things in simple terms or in terms that are purely Santharian and are related to the Dream.



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 19 December 2002, 01:36:00
for the understanding part...i agree completely...i was just trying to figure out a way to categorize them so that you wouldn't have things that are just kind of "there"...

in your categorization you mention sea mammals and air mammals...why not just have simply mammals as well?

the invertebrates that i added in there were a bit overboard i realize that...but if we are thinking of restructuring this area we should do it right...and i feel that without some sort of structure to this then in about 6 months time it will have to be done all over again...

that is why i am trying to suggest that not only do we define the beasts that are already currently in santharia but that we set up some method of classifying every beast that will be created....sure there will be some exceptions to these rules but i think it would make it a LOT easier to keep the area organized...

Tyrian Jadewalker

Edited by: Tyrian Jadewalker at: 12/18/02 4:37:43 pm


Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Viresse on 19 December 2002, 01:46:00
I do like the idea of building the Categories Off the back so we don't need to restructure some time down the road.

I mean, like the Magic. I thought it was FINE! Just when I was getting the hang of it, we gotta RE-STRUCTURE.
*pouts*
My posts are getting lost over there.


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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 19 December 2002, 02:11:00
I never said Arti was a dictator. Dictators are often mean and oppressive (like Stalin or Hitler). And actually, everything does have to get approved by Arti because it goes up on the site. He checks just about everything. (Makes you look at him a bit differently, ne? He does a lot more work than you think!) You didn't know this? Things get on the site because Arti puts them there or Arti gets other people to put them there. Arti checks most everything, and if not him, then one of his trusted advisors like Mommy-Judith or some other person.

And I did give you a good reason why I don't. That's what my entire last post was about. >_< No one listens to the little elven girl ~_~; You shouldn't act like I didn't give you any reasons if I actually did. And I still don't see why you split up Utilizable Animals. All the animals in that category were mammals, so you didn't have to split them up as you did. You could have just put them in Mammals as they were. I'm just wondering why you didn't do that.

And in my "Flying Mammals" and "Sea Mammals," I was trying to remain true to the Santharian way of doing things. As I have already stated, the Santharians proably didn't use such technical terms, and may not have known the characteristics of each animal to define the category in which they fall simply because they didn't have the technology at the time to see these characteristics.

You're certainly getting worked up over this. Relax.

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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 19 December 2002, 02:43:00
I agree with Rayne here, don't make it too complicated and don't use termini a lot of people won't understand. Not everybody knows even what Arachnae are, why not say just spider, or spiderlike animals?Without knowing some latin, I wouldn't have known whar Vertebraes are. We don't need all these latin strict classification here. Why not say "Simple Lifeforms?".Though I agree with Greybark that "we " are looking at the classification, we  nevertheless should not make it too complicated and use only words which contemporary Santharian people would understand.
I think it has not to be classified in our strict biological scheme, it would be ok as well to classify the bat under birds , if the Santharians think it is a bird. Even the classification should be consistent with the Dream.
We could say , it is a big compendium in the library of Santhala. and the Santharian man will look for the bat under flying animals - if he doesn't find it there, he may look elsewhere...

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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Viresse on 19 December 2002, 02:52:00
Simple is good.
Many of the Users here don't speak english as a first language, so we don't need to complicate the site by using scientific terms.
In fact, people just want to be swept away by the easy to read texts and the amazing stories, and complex terms may make that difficult.
I mean, imagine how many people that could be good for this site and don't know of it! Several times I have thought of telling friends about it, but worry that the amount of effort will scare them away.

Anyway. Simple is easy, but we need to plan ahead as well. Always think about the players and the future....


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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Greybark on 19 December 2002, 05:20:00
I could go along with anything simple.....There's no way to remember everything if ***everything*** has their own Santharitechnical categories....


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Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 19 December 2002, 10:48:00
i realize simple is good...and as i said before i realize this was overboard...i went to the extreme to try and get the notice that organization was probably better to do NOW rather than having to do later...just because we do not have any protazoa now does not mean we won't be having any later...

and rayne...if you read my post you would notice that i actually did say that i agreed with you on the terminology being too advanced...i just figured i would put it all in..
*no one listens to the new guy*

as for arachnids there are more arachnids other than spiders...and if someone wanted to make a scorpion then it would fall under that category...it seems both rayne and i agree on that as she had it included in her original post...

all i was saying is that your categorization is great...except i think there needs to be more general headings so that you can actually categorize un-catgeorized animals...as for me putting things in the wrong place you can put them whereever you want...

as for the comment about arti...i know exactly what arti does...it just seemed to me that you think that anything arti says goes...while this may be true in most respects as he knows the most about santharia and it is his site...if someone comes up with a better idea then i am sure he won't say that his way is the only way...and that is just the impression i got from your post...

i do not like the idea of utilizable animals simply because i think there are some that would fall under that category but have animals under it that do not...pigs for example...

Tyrian Jadewalker



Title: Re: Beastiary Organization
Post by: Greybark on 19 December 2002, 10:59:00
What Artie says does go. More or less. We get to argue with him first. He is the dreamaster.

*** bows to the dreamaster***

I have won some differences of opinion with him and lost some....
but it is his world most of all.

Each of us ends up with our own field of expertise, and Art respects that......

But I think you will find that all of us old hands will line up behind Art. :)  


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Title: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Bard Judith on 19 December 2002, 11:00:00
From A Bard's Viewpoint
-------------------------------------

All beasts fall into these simple categories:



Monsters to Be Slain by Heroes (Dragon, Wargs, etc.)

Things to Be Ridden Around on (Xyloth, Aijnuvic, horse)

Food Beasts (cow, pig, rabbit, etc.)

Things that Go Squeak when You Step on Them (rats, mice, and other small rodents)

Creepy-Crawlies (all bugs, worms, arachnids, etc.)

Water Stuff (fish, octopods, trysters, spittles, merfolk, etc.)

Flying Things that go Splot on My New Hat (birds, bats, and so on)

Anything Else I Forgot but Would Make a Good Rhyming Word for my Newest Saga (for instance, cave drell)




;)





Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Greybark on 19 December 2002, 11:21:00
I like.


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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Tyrian Jadewalker on 19 December 2002, 17:36:00
ok...you want to know why i split up utilizable animals?

because i was thinking that some where down along the line someone would come up with a group of wild horses...now if the horse section was under utilizable animals that wouldn't really fit would it?

i'm looking at the term utilizable animals as "domesticated" in a sense...

as well i was looking at this categorization as simply being something for us to look upon...but if it is in fact part of the copendium then i agree it should be in simple terms...

bard judith's seems good...i like it simply because you will not have to reorganize everything some time down the future...

Tyrian Jadewalker

Edited by: Tyrian Jadewalker at: 12/18/02 11:38:04 pm


Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 19 December 2002, 18:44:00
Yay Mommy-Judith!

I made a plant for you based on an idea in your joining request! ^_^ ::hands her a Melarapple::  



Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 19 December 2002, 19:18:00
Bard's way please! Though, I wonder if this discussion hadn't  already taken place some time ago???

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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 19 December 2002, 19:27:00
Where would cats, dogs, combination animals, and undefined animals all go in that form? Would the all go under the last one? That seems like a lot to have there...



Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Kendo Gyoshin on 19 December 2002, 20:33:00
okay, I don't really know if the list at front is going to be changed or not, but I have a question about the splitting of "dogs" and "wolves".  Aren't they the same thing?  Now granted "dogs" are more domesticated, but in my opinion, they're the same species.  My suggestion would be to place them in the same category, such as "canines".  Sure it's latin, but most people will know what you're talking about.  ^_^

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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Finnael on 19 December 2002, 20:44:00
Well actually, dogs and wolves are two different separate catagories. We have many types of dogs and some different types of wolves. But I like Bard's idea :)  so who knows what will happen with them.



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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Viresse on 20 December 2002, 02:26:00
Wham!
Canines.
Felines.

duh. That includes both feral and domesticated.

And for hoofed animals, they usually split them by the number of toes. Weird, yeah, but it explains alot.
If an animal has one toe ( horses, zebras, and some other animals, but I canna remember) it's usually a flatland animal and capable of being domesticated. Two toed hoofers ( goats, sheep, giraffes...) Are seen as animals that climb, and a little more wild.

I think. Maybe we should hunt down a kingdom map...


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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 20 December 2002, 02:52:00
People , don't stick to much to earthenly terms! Hoofed animals, let them be one category- if at all. Maybe we should really elaborate - just a bit and only a bit - Bards scheme, I like it very much, and it would fit into the dream much better than anything else!

We could divide the water stuff for example. But how would the Santharians do it? In animals you can eat or use somehow - and the rest :lol  

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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 20 December 2002, 16:34:00
Hmmm... Yes, I agree we should go for a simple cagetorization if possible, so Judy's proposal isn't that bad. Anyway, you won't find scientific terms in a fantasy bestiary, just check some other bestiaries for examples.

For comparison - the Rolemaster bestiary does it this way, mainly discerning between "animals" and "monsters":

Animals
- Herbivores and Other Normally Passive Animals
- Fish and other Water Creatures
- Insects, Arachnids and Crustaceans
- Reptiles and Amphibians
- Bird and other Aerial Animals
- Riding and Draft Animals
...

Dragons and other Fell Creatures
- Great Drakes
- Lesser Drakes
- Minor Drakes

Land Monsters

Water Monsters

Flying Monsters

Elementals and Other Artificial Beings

Demons

Entities from Other Planes/b]

Un


Shapechangers

Hmmm... I guess most of this categorization is quite reasonable, so maybe we can combine what we have so far with these ideas?


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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 20 December 2002, 19:10:00
Ok, I tried to recategorize everything in that format, Mr. Arti. I ended up adding two more sections under animals (Rodents and Carnivores.) I hope you don't mind. There are still some to be places. I wasn't sure what to do with the mythical animals. I was also a little confused on the definition of "Monster." I'm not really sure what really defines what a monster is. ^_^;;

Animals
Herbivores and Other Normally Passive Animals
Deer
- Aj'Nuvic (I know this doesn't go here, but I'm really not sure where else to put it!)
- Black Hart, Santhalian
- Prieta
- Starback
- White Deer, Sarvon.
Sheep
- Cuncu Sheep
- Dor'iyn Sheep
- Sawis Sheep
Goats
- Capricus
- Goat, Domestic
- Hynde
Pigs/Boar
- Wild Pig
- Woolly Boar

Carnivores and Other Sometimes Aggressive Creature
Bears
- Bear, Argrothin
- Bear, Cartashian
- White Bear
Cats
- Hern
- Ju'bat
- Milari
- Oracau
- Pard
- Shingar
Dogs
- Cro'cuta
- Hunting Hound
- Ly'can
- Zeiphyr. Hunting Hound
Wolves
- Ashmarian Wolves
- Warg

Rodents and other Small Mammals
Mice
- Dune Mouse
- Field Mouse
Rabbits/Hares
- Leapor
- Tarep
Rats
- Giant Rat
- Vilerat
Other
- Quallian Ss'nen

Fish and other Water Creatures
Fish
- Ancythrian Shark
- Barsa
- Bonehead
- Ceh'Fish
- Evoor
- Khendochar
- Mithanjor
- Nyjae
- Yellowtail
Mollusks
- Giant Kraken
- Oyster
- Tryster
Mammals
- Dolpholk
- Whale

Insects, Arachnids and Crustaceans
Arachnids
- Crystal Spider
- Giant Spider
- Scorpion
Insects
- Dalr
- Feylien
- Lu'an Moth
- Malise
- Mercarto Fly
- Orm
- Quill'Efr
- Red Diamond Butterfly
- Whistling Beetle
- White Spiral Butterfly
Worms
- Bloodworm
- Etherus Worm
- Pit Worm
- Ska'Kailn

Reptiles and Amphibians
Amphibians
- Bogsnapper
- Rubit
Reptiles
- Chomas
- Dragon Fly
- Drell
- Exechon
- Giant Rock Snake
- O'quadar Riding Snake
- Ranlesh
- Sand Viper
- Spiderturtle
- Tsor Shotak
- Zyloth

Bird and other Aerial Animals
Birds
- Al'Syrr
- Banded Ricau
- Blue Glitra
- Cuuloo
- Garthook
- Haloen
- Howler Goose
- Kingell
- Injh
- Mathmoor
- Nightbird
- Psitta (Chatterbird)
- Taenish
- Wood Owl
- Verhon
Mammals
- Bat

Riding and Draft Animals
Cows
- Strata Milking Cow
Horses
- Kev'lor Horse
- Rusik Horse
Others
- Havach Ox
- Ulgaroth

Dragons and other Fell Creatures
Great Drakes
- Fire Dragon
- Frost Dragon
- Gold Dragon
- Horned Dragon
- Ice Dragon
- Sea Dragon
- Shapechanger Dragon
- Spirit Dragon
Lesser Drakes
- Desert Drake
- Dravilonia
- Earth Drake
- Horned Drake
- Wyvern, Feathered
Minor Drakes

Land Monsters

Water Monsters

Flying Monsters

Elementals and Other Artificial Beings
- Golem
- Imp
- Netherbeasts
- Zombii

Demons
- Chasm Demon
- Gamosh-Ra
- Jhulnyor
- Mephgur
- Mhorashty
- Sephet
- Tam-Rek
- Ti'Hi
- Venazla
- Wraith

Entities from Other Planes

Un

Shapechangers
-        Inca Tati Shapeshifter
- Mystran
- Spyder
- Will'o'Wisp


To Be Placed
MYTHICAL
- Centaur
- Chimaera
- Kiivosh
- Phoenix
- Unicorn

- Drasil
- Flunki
- Great Wolverine
- Izaac
- Mimsy
- Mogliar
- Nul'tum



Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Finnael on 20 December 2002, 22:52:00
Maybe you could put an omnivore section.

Do you think that Drasils should be under Magical???  I really think that the Flunki should go under omnivores and so should Izaac, Nul'tum and Mimsy. Also, now that you have carnivore section in there you could put the Great Wolverine under wolves in there.



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Edited by: Finnael  at: 12/20/02 4:54:17 am


Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 20 December 2002, 23:07:00
I'm starting to get afraid that we'll run into problems here. I mean, some things might fit into two categories. Arg. Where's Arti? >_<

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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 21 December 2002, 03:53:00
I guess that's not really a problem: If something fits in 2 categories, put it into 2 categories:D  This way you'll always find it if you're searching for it, you know. Same we'll do soon at the Herbarium: If the plant is a flower and is edible, we'll put it in 2 categories: Flowers and Edible Plants. We'll do seperate pages for each category, so in fact the loading time of the main menu is reduced, not increased, even if we have more entries at each category.


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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Greybark on 21 December 2002, 06:00:00
Drasil should go into whatever category the Pendrowe are in.


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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Viresse on 21 December 2002, 15:47:00
That's an AWESOME Idea Arti.


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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 21 December 2002, 18:17:00
Pendrowe? I didn't come upon any such beast. o.o;;



Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Finnael on 21 December 2002, 19:47:00
go to this link The Pendrowe



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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 22 December 2002, 01:54:00
Shouldn't this be included in the Beastiary section? Or something to that nature? WHat's going on here. >_<;; ::is confused::



Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 22 December 2002, 09:13:00
The Pendrowe at the moment can be found in the Herbarium BTW, under Misc./Other. Guess it is a "plant" in a way.


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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Greybark on 22 December 2002, 11:14:00
Perhaps there should be an animated plant section in the herbarium?


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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 22 December 2002, 13:38:00
Yeah, this would be a possibility as well.


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Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Rayne (Alr) on 22 December 2002, 14:40:00
Pendrowe and Drasil would go into that anima-plant section. What category would we put that in: Animals or Plants? Perhaps both? Should I create another section for it on the list?



Title: Re: And now for something a little lighter...
Post by: Radaroc on 22 December 2002, 23:26:00
The great wolverine would definatly not go under wolves as (at least in RW) they are more closely related to otters, badgers, and ferrets.  The Mimsy (at least to me) seems to be very much like a ferret or mink (except for walking on it's hindlegs) so it should not be put in with rodents.  Not everything has to have its own sub-catgory, so just keep that in mind.



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