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1  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Twilight's Edifice, lvl X, Fire Necromancy on: 03 April 2015, 03:09:27
Oh my. I'll have to give this a look over this weekend then. :)
2  Santharian World Development / Cosmology, Myths and Religions / Re: Faerhorál, Demon Lord of Fire on: 21 February 2015, 07:56:54
Some demonologists say that the key to controlling him isn't having vast power, but in fact nullifying all power around oneself so he feels no need to destroy them. Some have classified this as suicide, saying that even attempting to nullify all the energy around someone would kill them instantly, since to nullify the aura of the air is to nullify its existence, thus suffocating themself.

Can I get some verification on this? I'm not sure I fully understand the aura/ounia

While you can probably in some way make air too thin to breathe I wouldn't consider that a thing with what you are trying to present here. The idea you are trying to present as I see is to make one's presence, both physical and spiritual, "small" and unnoticed. I would say this could probably be done through Ecuá magic in this case. An Ecuá mage could sever all connections between themselves and the demon lord, in essence making themselves appear completely gone both in body and spirit. Perception in any form is ultimately a connection between cár'allía, so by severing that connection you make perception between two beings impossible. Each is still physically there, but their links between each other are silent. That is the closest thing I can think of as regards a true nullification.

So to simplify the above, I would suggest changing that line to say that some demonologists say that key to survival is to simply be absent, and that this can be done through Ecuá magic by breaking all links between themselves and the demon lord. The negative to this is that the mage would then be unable to perceive the demon lord either, and could even forget that he summoned it at all.
3  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Flowmancy (Overview) on: 14 April 2014, 03:27:56
Hi Coren,

Just getting back into Santharia and noticed this and your collection of other entries on the topic. Have only read this overview so far but I intend on going through all of them (need to get Word to open the principles post, though, don't have a copy on my computers here). Though I don't expect to find too much to critique, your works are always very well done.

For the overview I only have a few comments:

1) You state Avatar as one of your inspirations and then use the terms bending and bender here, which might be too obvious a reference. Admittedly I'm not sure what would make a better word, so it might be okay.

2) In contrast to sensing and bending flow, generating has a very brief description despite being the end stage. I think adding some more here might be relevant. How do they generate it, exactly?

3) Both this entry and the Gondolwenmith entry, along with two dwarf entries, mention ley lines. I think at some point we need to establish what exactly ley lines are supposed to be in Caelereth, and whether we want to use this term or not (it is actually a fairly modern term, and its association with magical energy is a New Age concept to my understanding). I know that feng shui's qi is a more traditional concept and probably what you're working from due to the Asian style of Flowmancy, though obviously qi/chi is probably not a good term as well for the same reason that we're not using mana.

Actually, in some ways Flowmancy as written here reminds me of Weaver magic. Both Weaver magic and Flowmancy are magical styles based around meditating in order to tap into an otherwise imperceptible spiritual sensation (Resonance and Flow). This similarity might be where we want to look for defining ley lines. If the ley lines are in fact the Web, for example, magical threads crisscrossing Caelereth that Weavers manipulate, which all the other magical disciplines sense and interact with in an indirect way as places of great spiritual importance (such as Flow for Flowmancers)...

I like keeping the various magical systems linked in a way with each other, and think that might be a really neat way of doing it.

Just a thought that hit me when reading the entry and contemplating ley lines, in any case!
4  Santharian World Development / Santharian Artists Workshop and Resources / Re: Rev'oq Dagger Pic on: 12 April 2014, 16:15:30
Looks cool. :) Definitely has the look of something made out of bone.

I'd suggest making the wrapping around the handle darker in color. The hide of the tsor-shotak is described as, "almost black," while the color looks a lot lighter right now.

Also, I think adding some of the religious motifs to the weapon as described on the site might help in making it stand out more in contrast to similar weapons.

The handle of the dagger is usually adorned with some sort of charm. The claw of an uncil cat, the fang of a tsor-shotak, the tailfeather of a toran eagle or the tail of a snow wolf can be found adorning the pommel or the grip of a Kaaer'dár'shín warrior's dagger. In addition, the blades and handles are quite often painted with patterns in red, yellow or blue, broad curves around small dots creating stylized teeth or eyes on the sides of the blade.

The paint patterns especially would look very neat, I think.
5  Santharian World Development / People of the World of Caelereth / Re: Order of Santharia (Santhknights) on: 12 April 2014, 15:53:17
It's in the History section on the website.

Here's all the entries related to the war itself.

(YEARS 1.440 A.S. - 1.540 A.S.)

1.441    The Tyrant Dekron Lashes Back
War breaks loose between the Royalists and Helcrah. The Centoraurians and Helcrah revolt against the Tyrant Dekron and his Erpheronian supporters. Vardýnn is turned into a battlefield, and Nermeran is annexed by the Royalists. Cruelties against the people of Enthronia ensure that the Caltharians remain loyal to the central authority. The royalist conquer Varcopas and Strata.

Ximax declares neutrality in the progressing conflict.

1.477    War between the Royalists and Helcrah over Xaramon
As the Royalists attempt to retake Xaramon from the Centoraurians, they are met by troops from Helcrah. North Vardýnn (Nermeran) interfers on the side of the Royalists, and the Royalists prevail. After defeating Helcrah, the Royalists declare war on Ximax and sweep into the Cha'domm peninsula.

1.480     Ximax Surrenders to Royalists
Helcrah (South Vardynn) cede Naios and Caelum to the Royalists after losing the war, and the Royalists then launch an attack on Ximax. Ximax, suffering from a powerful explosion that destroys a great deal of the city, decides to surrender to the Royalist army and is annexed into the Santharian Kingdom. Grothunc's grandfather loses his Ximaxian wife, and he and his eldest son flee to Varcopas and hides in the desert.

:Edit: Actually, Dekron might be the Son. Going by Arti's thread on the forums, the son inherited in 1441 and was the one lashing back. So that would make the Son Dekron.
6  Santharian World Development / People of the World of Caelereth / Re: Order of Santharia (Santhknights) on: 12 April 2014, 05:20:34
I know it's not finished yet, but I figured it'd be good to offer some comments already. :)

In this mentioned civil war, what about the other orders? You write that the Order of Santharia was deliberately made to have no ties to gods or other tribes, is there any reason for this? The other orders that we have on the site already would have likely remained on the side of the Royalists as a whole (due to their oaths of fealty to the Santhran), but were there some other orders or perhaps individual leagues/chapters who broke their vows to fight on the side of the rebels? That would have been a good reason to encourage Dekron and Son to found a new order loyal solely to the crown. This could as well be an opportunity to come up with some now-extinct orders, which would have almost certainly been disbanded after the war due to fighting for the losing side (and thus having broken their oaths to the Santhran).

I'm guessing the Golden Spurs were given the lands confiscated from rebel territories in the war. Were they divided between all of the members of the Order, or given in large chunks only to a few of the most loyal? Is the land itself hereditary? Do Golden Spur lines have hereditary land tenures, or is it just a landless honorific? And is membership in the Order itself hereditary? IE, do the children of a Golden Spur (and their children and so on) automatically have membership in the Order from birth? This would contribute to making it a very large order (at least on paper).

Do Silver and Steel Spurs get anything beyond honorifics (knighthood, etc) for joining?
7  Organization and General Discussions / Announcements and Web Design / Re: Tharoc Wargrider (aka Steve Jackson) passed away on July 25th on: 31 July 2012, 17:23:47
Just heard about this. I'm very sorry to hear what happened. Tharoc had a big heart and was a great guy to talk to. It's very saddening to hear of his passing.

He will be missed.

8  Organization and General Discussions / Discussions, Development Ideas & Proposals / Re: Witches and Witchcraft. A proposal on: 05 October 2011, 08:53:37
Shaba, just ask Drustai :)

I am here now, actually. Though you are responding to a thread that just got necroed, seeing as the last post before Jacob's was in June! So, I am not sure if my assistance is still required... though if it is, let me know. ;)

9  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Entry Status on: 26 September 2011, 06:23:43
If you wish to revise it, be my guest. It is definitely out of date.

10  Santharian World Development / Cosmology, Myths and Religions / Re: The witch, her hut, and its eight legs on: 16 May 2011, 16:32:21
This entry is not about a real Santharian witch, but about a mythological figure. Nonetheless, I need to step carefully lest I determine too much about any ‘real’ witches that may be in development in someone’s drafts or thoughts. I understand that Fox has plans to develop witches, and I will send her a PM asking for comments. If anyone else feels that their development plans are affected, please do not hesitate to post here!

I’ve tried to write this entry so that it determines nothing or very little about any witches practicing in Santharia today or in the past, but nonetheless provides material on which an author could choose to draw. I am ready to make changes if contradictions to established entries or plans are found.

TBH, considering how old my plans are for that and basically being on indefinite hold, I don't really consider myself having it reserved at all anymore. If someone else wants to do stuff with it, don't worry about asking me, consider it open.

Either way, though, like you said, this isn't a 'real' witch, but rather a figure of myth. So whether or not she is accurate to a 'real' witch isn't necessary, because in this case her witchdom is an applied title based on what others call her and not representative of any kind of style of magic that she definitively performs. (in the same way a peasant might call a macanti a sorcerer or mage even though the macanti can't actually cast magic... the title in this instance is given by another based on perceptions). So it works either way.

It looks like a great entry. I enjoyed the read. :)

11  Santharian World Development / Places and Map Design / Re: The Dunraich (State) of Thalambath (updated to Talia's requests) on: 02 November 2010, 08:04:48
Sorry for not taking a look at this until now, Talia. I was kind of out of Santharian development matters for a bit. Thanks for the comments! I'll post some responses when I get some time to.

12  Santharian World Development / People of the World of Caelereth / Re: Khaius Onderfaust ~ Thalambathian Arcanist on: 16 September 2010, 13:15:45
Gets a thumbs up from me now. thumbup


Actually, one other thing...

(1) The tome known as "Twisted Enslavement of the Soul" is a book currently not found anywhere in Thalambath. When asked about the veracity of this book, the wizards claimed no knowledge of it with one even threatening death to me after asking about it. One single source revealed to me that the tome is kept hidden in a vault deep under the Temple of the Arcane.

Thalambathians are political demons and wouldn't just claim it doesn't exist. That is an easy answer which doesn't actually convince anyone, because rumor and legend becomes reality to the common man, and makes such a thing seem even more powerful and desirable than it really is. Rumors breed and fester, especially when they have been given veracity by being significant enough to be included in a Compendium entry like this one. They would be more likely to say that it does exist, but that its teachings have since become interwoven within other, more contemporary tomes. They would likely say that the original tome is old, in a poor condition, and out-dated, and not available to the common researcher or Arcanist due to fear of damaging it.

They're more likely to use half-truths and misleading statements than to outright lie, as these give a sense of truth to them without revealing everything. They would say it is kept within the vaults, but would not be specific about where.

Of course, they would not publically bring the existence of the book up, but if a researcher happened to ask about it, they wouldn't be adverse to giving them the half-truth. In fact, if pressed, they might even be willing to show a few choice pages and heavily edited copies of the book that so happen to have left the more dangerous elements out.

In Thalambath, they believe in the idea that "people aren't stupid"... they know when you're lying to them. Give them what they want to hear, and you satisfy their curiosity... hold it from them, and they become desperate and fanatic. When given what you want to hear, you walk away, happy as a clam, thinking you got your answer, while they grin at each other behind your back.

(2) The "Darkness Unchained" tome is said to be kept in Onderfausts' tomb under the Norong'sorno. The tomb today cannot be found as it has been the desire of many a graverobber over the centuries to try to steal the supposed treasures of the great wizard rumored to be hidden there. Legend says that the tomb is hidden by powerful magics that only archwizards know the true location.

The original copy might be in the tomb, but other copies would have been made, because the Thalam are practicalists. The existence of these would not be broadcast publically, but would be known by those who have taken the time to ask around the Arcanists. These copies would not be available to the average Arcanist or researcher, being available solely to the Archwizards and the Seven due to being highly dangerous to the initiated.

This is more an OOC note than something you need to change, as, ICly (As these articles are written), the legend might be that there is only the original, which makes this 'Compendiumist's Note' accurate to the common belief.
13  Santharian World Development / People of the World of Caelereth / Re: Khaius Onderfaust ~ Thalambathian Arcanist on: 13 September 2010, 07:03:22
That was exactly the point in me putting an Enclave of both in each other's cities. Oh they might have 'close' ties, but they're constantly watching over each other's shoulder. The Thalambathians doesn't trust the Ximaxians, and the Ximaxians don't trust the Thalambathians... but both want to know what the other is up to, so they pretend to like each other.

14  Santharian World Development / People of the World of Caelereth / Re: Khaius Onderfaust ~ Thalambathian Arcanist on: 11 September 2010, 16:17:01
There has been progress. Azhira's description made it sound like the entire system (not just new summons, not just the summoning field, but the entire whole of Thalambathian magic) was completely stagnant, 'for thousands of years'. That was not my intent when I mentioned 'stagnant' in my first post.

There have been improvements on things like efficiency, controllability, and so on. There just hasn't been very many improvements on *new* creatures being summoned, which is where Onderfaust's breakthroughs would be.

There is progress in other fields. Just not in creature summoning. The description needs to be tidied to make it clear that only that specific subset has been stagnant.

No fault on you btw, Azhira. It was my fault for making that very unclear when I posted it before.

15  Santharian World Development / People of the World of Caelereth / Re: Khaius Onderfaust ~ Thalambathian Arcanist on: 11 September 2010, 16:08:27
I've got two somewhat major 'lore' comments.

1) Arcanistry as a WHOLE isn't stagnant (ignore me using that word in an earlier post, by stagnant before I meant there are few new actual summoning rituals, but the entire system is not stagnant). It is supposed to be a very heavy research-based magic, moreso than Ximaxian magic, in that much of what goes on within the Temple of the Arcane, beyond training, is researching new spells and better ways of casting older spells. Summoning magic as a whole would not have been stagnant, Onderfaust would have been one of many summoners searching for newer and better ways of summoning things (better ways can be anything from longevity of the summon, controllability of the summon, more efficient reagents/formula/gestures to make the summon less taxing/expensive, and so on). What WAS stagnant was new creature summons... his work here would have been seen as a major breakthrough. There had been very few new creatures (not for thousands of years, that's an exaggeration, but very few), but research was still going strong on other aspects of the field. He was merely better at it, such as managing to summon some creatures like the Mystran that had, to that point, not been discovered yet. But the entire system certainly hasn't been completely stagnant. Just new summoning rituals.

Think of Arcanistry like science (whereas Ximaxian magic is philosophy). Just because there are no major breakthroughs on a certain field doesn't mean research isn't still happening, just that major progress at that point might be slower, with most advancements being fairly minor in scope and merely improving on older techniques. It has been stagnant in new creature rituals. It has NOT been stagnant in terms of general research and improvements.

2) He would have never made archwizard if he had failed to control a summon that ended up rampaging through the Temple and killed many people. He'd be lucky he wasn't executed or at the least exiled from the city for that. Thalambath is harsh on crime, and negligence counts as a crime. His political maneuvering might have saved his life, but he would have never been allowed to become an archwizard by title (he might have been equal to them by skill, but he would have never been allowed to join their ranks). That netherbeast debacle would have destroyed his career. In other words, a good excuse for why he might have been seeking revenge for his treatment after that incident, because he would have been stuck as a researcher for the rest of his days.

Other than those two points, I really like it! :)
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