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1  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Eruption of Chaos, Fire School, Level 8 on: 30 November 2005, 19:07:00
"Silfer!" ~Thinks momentarily about a hug but decides against hugging the Archmagi. Deciding to just bow gracefully as golden curls cascade down to frame supple elven features~ "I would hope you would remember me .... Maybe not under this SN. Yet  I beleive this to be the one I was using then. An since you are here or kind of here .... I would like to have a mentor so that I could work on the boards ... if you have the time that is, M'Lord."

"Even a few words on my thoughts given above would at least be some guidance Sire." ~A mischivious grin dancing over crimson lips, a maelstrom rolling in the depths of her greys eyes. Her stare unwavering as she awaited his answer to her question or at least some rhetoric upon the issues discussed above.~

(If by some grace of heaven you would mentor me on the boards. I would change to my fire magi character. Since I beleive that was where I was last learning from you.)

"Life is a story waiting to be written. It is upto each of us to make it wonderful and exciting."
Val Incendarious CD

Edited by: Val Incendarious  at: 11/30/05 2:15
2  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Eruption of Chaos, Fire School, Level 8 on: 30 November 2005, 16:23:00
An last but not least ... this would be my apologies to you for posting in this thread to begin with. I followed your link for joining the forums, when last I was here this was not the case. I sincerely apologize to you and to the others for leaping before reading.

I have had 2 mentors previously on the boards but neither Rayne nor Silfer seem to be active. They are both fine teachers and have alot of knowledge in fields  I have great interests in. I will just study the Dev. boards and learn my way around a bit more and see if either of them return. Thank you for your insight and once again I am sorry.:  

"Life is a story waiting to be written. It is upto each of us to make it wonderful and exciting."
Val Incendarious CD

3  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Eruption of Chaos, Fire School, Level 8 on: 30 November 2005, 15:02:00
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This one I don't really get. What do you mean?


I apologize for how unclear this sounded, it was indeed late and my mind wandered a bit. It was only a reinforcement to the statement prior.

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If you dump water into a fire, the fire will go out (not counting some metals), so I don't see the point here.


What happens if the fire ouina is in greater supply than the water? It is a common occurence in the real world for water to be explosive when heated quickly. I will give 3 examples 1)Take a piece of limestone and place it in a bonfire .... the water content in the limestone will boil and cause the limestone itself to explode. "It is an easy experiment to try .... if you do try. "RUN" away from the fire it takes about 5 minutes for the limestone to reach it's blowing point. 2) A geyser at Yellowstone National Park is another fine example it is heated water that surges violently outward. 3) A person using a cutting torch is advised against this sooo ... do not try this at home. Light the torch with the flame on concrete, it boils the water molecules in the concrete and causes it to explode like a grenade.

Mind you this is only laws of average for a home fire. A 3000sq. ft. home is in flames, we will say that only a third of it is on fire. So you have 1000sq. ft. of fire, which would require an average use of 10,000 gallons of water to insure the fire extinguished. You are looking at 10 gallons of water to put out a 1 sq. ft. fire. Mind you this is a bit overkill but it is the average.  Even if you cut the average water usage to less than a third, to say 3 gallons. That is still a good amount of moisture for such a small surface area. Water is used to put out fires but the ratio it takes is in the fires favor. There is alot of water boiled off before it even hits the base of the fire, so when you say water would put out the fire. That is dependant on how much the ratio of each is to the other.

I would think if the laws of physics hold true, then by concentrating fire ouina on a rock substance it would have the same explosive effect as concrete or limestone. The reason many people use a steel base to light a cutting torch off of is because steel has the tensil strength to withstand rapid moisture expansion. Maybe an archmagi would even be capable of temperatures to make even steel react like this. I am not a physics major so I am not sure it is even possible.

On the assumption that some of what I said has a bit of truth to it. Would it be possible to see a magi of water running this hypothesis in reverse? By gathering water ouina, could it be released in measured amounts into a source of fire ouina (car'all) ?  Thereby not extinguishing the flame, but using it to turn the base water ouina, into a steaming hot vapor. Possibly using the last of the water ouina to create a boiling explosion, extinguishing the fire in the blast. (Note this is dependant upon an outside source high in fire ouina.)
     

"Life is a story waiting to be written. It is upto each of us to make it wonderful and exciting."
Val Incendarious CD

Edited by: Val Incendarious  at: 11/29/05 22:45
4  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Eruption of Chaos, Fire School, Level 8 on: 30 November 2005, 03:39:00
I know this spell thread is a bit old but ... I had an idea I wanted to share after reading it. Just to see if I am on the same page with others here, maybe even perceiving the concept of this spells workings in a different light. Could not a fire mage gather the fire ounia making sure to keep it detached from the water ounia in an object. Or at least keeping the amount of fire ounia "touching" the water ounia at a stable level till the mage releases it? Fire magi often gather "balls or concentrations of fire ounia." Would this not possibly function along the same line?

Then at the finish of the casting, let the fire ounia free to return to a stabile state in the cár’áll. The sudden influx of fire ounia meeting the water ounia would create an explosion similiar to water when it is dumped into a fire. Hence allowing a mage to incorporate this spell into near any object with a concentration of water cár’áll.

I beleive this explanation exhibits all 3 spheres showing just how complex this spell truly is.

I apologize to you all if my technical terms are a bit off. But I have been gone for sometime and once again recently stranded here =)

"Life is a story waiting to be written. It is upto each of us to make it wonderful and exciting."
Val Incendarious CD

Edited by: Val Incendarious  at: 11/29/05 11:12
5  Organization and General Discussions / Newbie Information, Joining Requests and Recruitment / Apprenticeship Problem on: 02 December 2005, 00:44:00
Sorry ... please view next post in this thread.

"Life is a story waiting to be written. It is upto each of us to make it wonderful and exciting."
Val Incendarious CD

Edited by: Val Incendarious  at: 12/8/05 4:46
6  Organization and General Discussions / Newbie Information, Joining Requests and Recruitment / Re: Jobs for the masses on: 02 December 2005, 02:49:00
I know this thread has taken a turn from it's original focus ... but I do truly want Sel to place his list in the RP forums. I think it may help newcomers to create unique and interesting characters. Just looking down the list he provided sent my imagination in many directions. :clap  

"Life is a story waiting to be written. It is upto each of us to make it wonderful and exciting."
Val Incendarious CD

7  Organization and General Discussions / Newbie Information, Joining Requests and Recruitment / Re: Jobs for the masses on: 01 December 2005, 14:16:00
I am sorry Arti, I had no clue it was illegal. It was given to me and I was only trying to help Judith.  :confused  

"Life is a story waiting to be written. It is upto each of us to make it wonderful and exciting."
Val Incendarious CD

Edited by: Val Incendarious  at: 11/30/05 21:18
8  Organization and General Discussions / Newbie Information, Joining Requests and Recruitment / Re: Jobs for the masses on: 30 November 2005, 18:02:00
Sel, I think this would be a great thing to post in the RPG forums as well. It may be useful in some unique titles among the new players.

I am happy to hear about the map tutorial! I love working with maps and such.

Judith I have a version of Adobe Photoshop 6 you can have. The only thing you can't do with it is register it. I have alot of plugins for it as well. I don't know how or where we could transfer such a big file on here. Most chatservers I don't think would do it. Maybe Arti could help there ..... If not I could make a copy to disk for you and mail it. Use a post office box. That way neither of us has to use our addresses.

"Life is a story waiting to be written. It is upto each of us to make it wonderful and exciting."
Val Incendarious CD

Edited by: Val Incendarious  at: 11/30/05 1:24
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