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1  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Schrat/Woodwose/Leshy/Basajuan on: 21 May 2014, 11:37:06
I figured as much, interesting example by the way. Any ideas you folks could bounce off on me when it comes to name and place? I was considering this as a mythical creature somewhere around the Kuglimz folk, and in the Hovel Frond forest, because of the Kuglimz similarities to Norwegians and Slavs.
2  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Schrat/Woodwose/Leshy/Basajuan on: 21 May 2014, 09:12:15
So I've been looking into something seen in Slavic, Norwegian, Basque, German, and Old English mythology: the wild man of the woods.

Basically speaking, the wild man of the woods was kind of like medieval Europe's sasquatch/bigfoot, except for more intelligent and mysterious, much more human-like. I think it would be a lot of fun to "Santharize" this concept as there is a lot of material to draw on and between all of the different versions of the story out there I can come up with something utterly unique and very "Santharian" too.

Just for some basic exposure to woodwose/schrat and leshy, so you folks can see what I'm talking about:

A Leshy usually appears as a tall man, but he is able to change his size from that of a blade of grass to a very tall tree. He has hair and a beard of living grass and vines, and is sometimes depicted with a tail, hooves, and horns. He has pale white skin that contrasts with his bright green eyes. A Leshy has a close bond with the gray wolf, and is often seen in the company of bears as well. He is the Forest Lord and carries a club to express that he is the master of wood. He has blue blood, which gives his cheeks a blue tinge. Legend describes him as having a red scarf and his left shoe on his right foot. He also, is known to have no shadow.

A person who befriends a leshy can learn the secrets of magic. Farmers and shepherds would make pacts with the leshy to protect their crops and sheep. The leshy has many tricks, including leading peasants astray, making them sick, or tickling them to death. They are also known to hide the axes of woodcutters. A person gets lost in the woods when a leshy crosses their path. To find the way out, you have to turn your clothes inside out and wear shoes on opposite feet.

Leshies are terribly mischievous beings: they have horrible cries, and can imitate voices of people familiar to wanderers and lure them back to their caves, where the leshies will tickle them to death; they also remove signs from their posts. Leshies aren't evil: although they enjoy misguiding humans and kidnapping young women, they are also known to keep grazing cattle from wandering too far into the forests and getting lost. Sometimes cow herders will make pacts with a leshy by handing him their crosses from around their necks and sharing communion with him after Christian church gatherings; these pacts are said to give the cowherds special powers.

Sometimes more than one leshy inhabits a forest, and then they will fight for their territory, knocking down trees and scaring animals.

On top of mythological influences, medieval wild man lore also drew on the learned writings of ancient historians, though likely to a lesser degree. These ancient wild men are naked and sometimes covered in hair, though importantly the texts generally localize them in some faraway land, distinguishing them from the medieval wild man who was thought to exist just at the boundaries of civilization.

The fragmentary 16th-century Breton text An Dialog Etre Arzur Roe D'an Bretounet Ha Guynglaff (Dialog Between Arthur and Guynglaff) tells of a meeting between King Arthur and the wild man Guynglaff, who predicts events which will occur down to the 16th century.

A wild man is described in Konungs skuggsj (Speculum Regale or "the King's Mirror"), written in Norway around 1250:

It once happened in that country (and this seems indeed strange) that a living creature was caught in the forest as to which no one could say definitely whether it was a man or some other animal; for no one could get a word from it or be sure that it understood human speech. It had the human shape, however, in every detail, both as to hands and face and feet; but the entire body was covered with hair as the beasts are, and down the back it had a long coarse mane like that of a horse, which fell to both sides and trailed along the ground when the creature stooped in walking.

I have emboldened some portions I find very interesting and would like to consider implementing.

My main questions right now would be these:

Where is the best place for such a creature? What might we name it? And are there any interested artists like Seeker or Bard that would enjoy creating their own illustrations for me? Is it possible for this idea to culminate not just in a bestiary entry but it's own race?
3  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Flowmancy (Overview) on: 21 May 2014, 07:39:02
This concept of gravity is key, according to your entry, but gravity isn't exactly a well defined concept already. What is gravity? How is it the root of lightness? Honestly, we should be talking about gravity with a capital "G" if it is a central concept, because it is unique to these monks. Let's remember that in Santharia we aren't exactly in the age of physics, but metaphysics.

Also, it might be a fun avenue to explore the relationship of these monks and their philosophy of magic with the study of ancient Krean magic at Nybelroid academy. BTW bro I was seriously stoked when I saw that your entry on Krean magic was finally up. It's honestly my favorite magic system so far here.
4  Santharian World Development / Cosmology, Myths and Religions / Re: Ash'Mari men religion section on: 30 January 2013, 17:03:30
Well, I've gone back over it and I still have the nagging urge to complete what I started. I feel my writing style has changed and matured a bit since then, and for starters I want to work on areas where I may have sounded obtuse. Also, I plan to go back over all of the comments I've been given and respond to them better with my edits. Mulling things over, the whole idea makes more sense now to me, and I think that I can make a better effort at providing greyness, connectivity and explanation for readers who haven't read the tribe entry, etc.

In short, I mean to pick it up again. But I have plenty of comments already, and ones that on second thought I don't think I've addressed well enough, so the pencil's up for now. Maybe later I'll give a little poke to signify I'm ready for another round of comments.
5  Organization and General Discussions / Non-Santharian Stuff: Life, the Universe & Everything / Re: The Hobbit Movie- What did you think? on: 29 January 2013, 13:55:08
Irid, my understanding has always been, and research that I've just done online confirms, that The Hobbit was written by Tolkien well before Lord of the Rings. I'm happy to be proven incorrect though.

I'm pleased you enjoyed the movie, Irid. :)

Well, of course Bilbo stands out. :) It is called The Hobbit, after all. :) I never fully understood why there were so many dwarves in that story, anyway. Even the fairy tales only ever had 7 dwarves.

What was Barry Humphries like in it? He was the lead goblin, apparently.

Irid was referring to other assorted tales that were written after the four main books everyone reads. You may find some of it in the Silmarillion, or in individual tales that weren't added to the Silmarillion. Another example where you can draw backstory from an assorted tale of Tolkien's, is in the Fellowship. Do you remember Tom Bombadil? Well, he has his own tale.

If you were to own the same edition of the Return of the King that I have, which has notes and genealogies and an index at the end of it, concerning the kings of men and dwarves, you would find the account of the dwarf lords of Erebor, which is what I believe Irid is referring to. In it is detailed the actual story of the white orc from Moria, which they borrowed from but twisted around to make it into a plotline more relevant to the journey, as opposed to just being an account of Oakenshield's heritage and the fall of his people.
6  Organization and General Discussions / Non-Santharian Stuff: Life, the Universe & Everything / Re: The Hobbit Movie- What did you think? on: 29 January 2013, 13:46:42
Warning: There are spoilers in my post!

How in the world are they going to make 3 movies out of the hobbit?

I had figured that they would spend the next movie narrating Beorn and Mirkwood, and maybe end it with them floating to Dale. After that, I think the rest of the material really could make up a whole movie, although I don't see that being a three hour event. But they might add in more stuff like the whole spiel they fabricated about the white orc being Oakenshield's rival, and mucking with the journey, or of course they could draw from other assorted works of Tolkien, like they had with a few details in this first movie.

However, from about one hour in, I thought it slowly but surely descended into a generic action movie. A major plotline was added as an excuse to spend more time on battles (just as Arti suspects).

Yeah, that was why I would have been more excited to see Benicio del Torro have a go at it, because of what he had to say about the project when he thought he was going to be a part of it. If I remember right, he hadn't actually read the books before being offered the role of director, and found out when he read them that he was passionate about Tolkien's work, and that he was happy with just mainly taking Tolkien's work and paring it down, instead of paring it down and then making it Hollywood palatable with blunders like this white orc plotline.

Not to mention that there were changes that didn't seem to have any effect so far as making it Hollywood palatable, like Radagast the Brown meeting the company. A really pointless change. It probably didn't make the movie seem all that much better to those who aren't as familiar with Tolkien's work, and all it really served to do was to irritate those of us who can be a little anal about Middle Earth, for a few minutes.
7  Organization and General Discussions / Non-Santharian Stuff: Life, the Universe & Everything / Re: What are you listening to? on: 29 January 2013, 13:31:29
Schubert: Der tod und das madchen (death and the maiden).


The two characters are pretty vivid in it. Truly a musical journey. Well, I had posted this over on the rp board and I thought I'd give it a whirl over here again. Your references have been fun and it's been a while, so why not a little thread necro?
8  Organization and General Discussions / Non-Santharian Stuff: Life, the Universe & Everything / Re: A Santharian Myers-Briggs Correlation? on: 30 October 2011, 17:06:19
I'm not sure the mypersonality.info tests are more comprehensive. 76 questions to 72 isn't that big a difference, I think, and doubtless a lot depends on the quality of the questions being asked. However, I do like the mypersonality.info tests a bit more--it definitely made me think!  :)

Introverted: 84%
Intuitive: 89%
Feeling: 53%
Judging: 63%

The Multiple Intelligence test is a bit iffy, since it caters to those who are more willing to admit to and/or espouse their real or perceived skills and intelligences--therefore, it caters to a more self-confident or egotistical individual. Those who are less apt to admit to their skills ("I am good at...") because of low self esteem or modesty are likely to get lower percentages. When I first took it, I got a higher score on logical/mathematical than verbal/linguistic (this score was surprisingly low  buck); it may just be that I have less confidence in my verbal skills than in my math skills, since math skills can be more or less objectively quantified.

As a test, I went through and marked all of them "Usually." I got 100% on everything!  :P

I definitely agree with you when it comes to the MI test. The way they phrased the answers and the types of questions they used weren't adequate.
9  Organization and General Discussions / Non-Santharian Stuff: Life, the Universe & Everything / Re: A Santharian Myers-Briggs Correlation? on: 18 October 2011, 15:35:04
I rethought the subject, and found a more comprehensive set of surveys:


This time around I scored like this:

Introversion 84%
Intuition 89%
Thinking 89%
Perceiving 89%

Multiple intelligences-
Logical/Mathematical 100%
Intrapersonal 100%
Musical 100%
Verbal/Linguistic 100%
Naturalist 70%
Visual/Spatial 70%
Bodily/Kinesthetic 40%
Interpersonal 15%

10  Organization and General Discussions / Non-Santharian Stuff: Life, the Universe & Everything / Re: A Santharian Myers-Briggs Correlation? on: 15 October 2011, 09:58:40
I scored INTJ, 100I, 88N, 50T, 67J. Ha! Apparently I'm a "mastermind", but really I'm just another hick.  :D
11  Organization and General Discussions / General Santharian Discussions / Re: Port culture, sailing, and shipping and exports on: 12 October 2011, 15:46:59
I'll work on that, then. My ability to write entries here will be cut short by spring, because I'm going back to school, so I'll have to stop working here before then.
12  Organization and General Discussions / General Santharian Discussions / Re: Port culture, sailing, and shipping and exports on: 12 October 2011, 09:36:32
Navigation and ship speeds would be an area of particular interest to me, because I've heard and asked questions about it ever since I started going to this site.
13  Organization and General Discussions / General Santharian Discussions / Re: Port culture, sailing, and shipping and exports on: 12 October 2011, 06:05:58
Right. I don't see how I'd go about doing that, but I'll see more clearly when some more research has been done.

Once again, if any of you guys have reading suggestions, I'd appreciate it.
14  Organization and General Discussions / General Santharian Discussions / Port culture, sailing, and shipping and exports on: 11 October 2011, 09:56:07
I thought I'd like to make a composition similar to an almanack with an accompanying article (meaning I intend to collect sayings and describe people and practices), on what it is to be a seaperson in Caelereth. It's a pretty interesting subject, and as of right now you have to research it by digging everywhere "in diver's manners".

I'd like to do this project or be a part of it, because I've been reading the entries here for a couple of years and have a grasp on the races, tribes, and various places. However, this would involve discussing a lot of sailors and port communities from the Anpagans down to the Kasumarii. I don't mean for it to be exhaustive, but port and sea life has a distinctive flavor of culture, trade, and grit that can stand to be communicated for the most part in one place.

I'll be digging and posting links here to relevant entries, and I'd appreciate it if anyone else posted links to relevant entries here as well. That is, if I've got the initial yay instead of nay to explore this option.
15  Santharian World Development / Cosmology, Myths and Religions / Re: Ash'Mari men religion section on: 11 October 2011, 09:44:24
Well, I really lost my creative motivation on this subject, and that's why I never got back to working on it. If someone else would like to take over with the material I've presented, or start on the subject from scratch, go ahead. I've got other things in mind now.
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