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1  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: The Kaaer'dár'shín Half-Orcs - Second Tribal Rework on: 01 April 2011, 08:12:48
lol Thanks Azhira!

Ooo...  it is ready to go up! awesome!
I understand what you mean about writing it up for me.  Was not actually expecting that just thought I would trow out some ideas for discussion. Will do some thinking about this and what natural resource might be available for them to use. 

The tainted creatures would probably make the most interesting and unique weapons if something comes to mind but also anything that is from animals exclusively from the areas they are in would be good too.
2  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: The Kaaer'dár'shín Half-Orcs - Second Tribal Rework on: 01 April 2011, 00:43:48
The hawians used wood with sharks teeth as you can see in this link.

Just to get a discussion started, how about a bludgeoning weapon or something made using the teeth of the  our lizard friend?

Or something made from antlers?
Or from parts of those hideous creatures from beyond?

All seem probable especially given their status as half orc.

I've looked foolish before.  Why not do it again? rolleyes.

3  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: The Kaaer'dár'shín Half-Orcs - Second Tribal Rework on: 25 March 2011, 09:28:41
I certainly agree with that.  Just if someone were to create a CD based off of a tribal entry these are the type of questions they might need answered.
4  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: The Kaaer'dár'shín Half-Orcs - Second Tribal Rework on: 25 March 2011, 07:26:35
lol I understand the bone for the dagger is.  My question has to do with the axe.  I take it than that it too is bone.
5  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: The Kaaer'dár'shín Half-Orcs - Second Tribal Rework on: 25 March 2011, 05:09:28
Seeing the dagger is made of bone, is it the axe head stone with a wooden handle? I can’t see it being bone, as it would need to be more substantial as a tool and a weapon. 

The throwing knives could be wood, bone or stone I would think.

I noticed in the older entry there was a short sword mentioned.  Has that been overlooked or purposefully left out?
6  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: The Kaaer'dár'shín Half-Orcs - Second Tribal Rework on: 23 March 2011, 00:17:33
Thanks Azhira!  That clarifies things quite a bit.  Sorry about the misspelling on the Rev'oq.  I had read Valan's post regarding the spelling but failed to ensure I was using the correct one. Did not realized there was a separate, language, or at least dialect for the humans of the north.  Sorry, better do some more research.  That probably means that the human languages on other continents would be different as well.

Thanks Valan! that clears it up quite a bit.  I will hunt out your entry on this and read it.
7  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: The Kaaer'dár'shín Half-Orcs - Second Tribal Rework on: 22 March 2011, 20:19:24
Hi Azhira

While looking through this again I came up with just a few questions and some suggestions, all of which you are absolutely free to ignore if you wish.

Language:  Seeing the Kaaer'dár'shín I thought a little clarification are both Orc and Human perhaps a little clarification here might be in order.  Do they speak Kh'om'chr'om, Tharian or a mixture of both?

T'lark: The Blood Defender is made from the hide of the Tsor-Shotak lizard. According to the  entry for this amazing creature is covered with, “dark brown to black scales.”  The picture in the entry for the T’lark shows two brown examples that look as if the scales have been removed.  Is this the case and if so what than makes the leather of this animal so protective?  Also in RL when a scaly creature such as a snake or lizard has its skin is made into leather it seems to retain their scaly appearance and original color.  Does the process of preparing the hide remove the scales than and other pigmentation?

Ru'noq: Just a clarification please.  Is the blade curved towards the true or false edge?  Here in “The Swords of Caereth” may help a bit.  I have always referred to these edges in these terms and from what I have researched on this they seem to be terms used as well.  It may seem trivial I know but I am the type of person that needs to be able to visualize things better.

Here are some examples that illustrate what I am trying to ask.

So far every time I have asked about such things I have been wrong so hopefully this time I won’t be as far off.

Valan is the expert on such things so go with whatever the master says.

Again, this is such an excellent entry I hate to bring these things up but I am only wishing to be of service here.
8  Organization and General Discussions / General Santharian Discussions / Re: Well I warned you I would be back :evil: on: 15 March 2011, 00:09:33
sounds great... runs off to read said post.

I could see the influence from these real cultures and the blending of them worked well.  At some point I will probably create a CD based on them.
9  Organization and General Discussions / General Santharian Discussions / Re: Well I warned you I would be back :evil: on: 14 March 2011, 22:47:11
Thanks Azhira!

Wow that was fast! grin

It does seem reasonable to have all of the aspects of the To'ava present in each individual and that they could choose "there way" so to speak.

I could not help but see the correlation to more native cultures that exist in the real world.  This really adds much to the world.

I would also like to commend you for creating a race that is actually a mixture of Orc and other races.  Typically, when there is an interbreeding with a race that is in as much disfavor as Orcs tend to be the merely become outsiders and outcasts from the both societies.  With this tribe thy have managed to form their own culture and ways that gives them a since of identity and belonging.

So thanks again for responding so quickly to my questions.

10  Organization and General Discussions / General Santharian Discussions / Well I warned you I would be back :evil: on: 14 March 2011, 10:21:08
I have been reading the entry on the   Kaaer’dár’shín Beliefs “To'ava'yarna.” Rather fascinating read actually though I have run into something that this simple minded mortal has had trouble understanding.

1.   Ok, I found these two parts that seem to contradict each other.  The fist states that each Kaarer is born with one of these natural spirites, (ie. Tree (or beast) Earth, Water, Light and Dark).     
The Kaaer believe that each member of the tribe is born with the essence of one of these natural aspects. Through meditation, prayer, songs, the use of totems and successful hunts, every Kaaer's natural spiritual essence grows in power and eventually they obtain the gift to perform divine magic by bringing forth their spirits' power.

However this second quote seems to indicate that they have one of each to form his or her “Yarna” or soul.
Each yarna is identified as an essence of one of the primal spirits. Each spirit of nature represents specific gifts, or areas of power. As children, each Kaaer develops their own walk in life with interests and talents of their own. The Kaaer do not believe that this process is accidental or random; rather they believe that a particular To’ava leads them along their path in life. For example, a sympathetic young girl with a gift for comforting and aiding wounded is believed to be strong with the To’ava Benapryl, or the representation of Water (healing). A boy may be particularly talented with building and crafts and thus is strong with the To’ava Gynturg, or the representation of Earth (craftsman). The following representations are described below:

Than when describing the “Yarna”, third quote, it seems again to be a single spirit rather than a combination.
•  The Primal Self ("Yarna")
The Kaaer believes that each member born of the tribe (regardless of clan) inherits an essence derived from each of the To’ava primal spirits. These spirits (some would say souls) together are called a “Yarna”.

Which is it or am I just reading this incorrectly?

2.   These “To’vatars” or Amulets… are they worn, carried or otherwise owned by all or most of the Kaaer?


11  Organization and General Discussions / Discussions, Development Ideas & Proposals / Re: Questions regarding the Korweynites on: 03 March 2011, 08:59:58
Thanks Ta'lia that is indeed helpful.  I was only try not to create a CD that didn't fit the race.  The more I read the Tribe entry the more questions I came up with.  This is mostly because in order for me to write about something I have to be able to "see" it well enough to do it. 

I don't need to have almond eyes I just wanted to state that if it was what was actually intended.

You can be sure I will be back with more questions though. lol   I tend to find lots of them.
12  Organization and General Discussions / Discussions, Development Ideas & Proposals / Questions regarding the Korweynites on: 03 March 2011, 01:11:29
I do hope this is the correct place to post this.  Having finally made it over here, to the land of the wise and all knowing.  Following the advice of the sages I have come to seek some answers and will probably do so on numerous occasions.  I will try my best to word my questions in such a way that they make since and can be answered in a way that my far simpler mind can comprehend.

In the entry for the Korweynites

I was wondering if those of this tribe had what might be called an epicanthus or an almond shaped eye?

In the Clothing section I was wondering if someone could explain a bit more about the appearance of the kyphelms?  How are they decorated?  A more random attachment of embellishment or a pattern?

In the Weapons  section I had a few more questions as well.

  • What type of short sword is actually used by the common soldiers and would this be the same sword used by the imperial guard?

  • What type of breast plate do these soldiers wear?  Is it fabric, Leather,  brigandine or metal plate?

  • Is the shield metal for both the nobles and or common soldiers made of metal, wood, woven basketry?
  • The entry states
    The Korweynite troops wear a headcaps shaped like a eaglehead with the beak covering the nose area.
      Is this like a skullcap helm with a noseguard?  In another location Clothing section it also says,
    Military helmets look like entrenched versions of such kyphelms in design and style.

  • The shield for the common soldier is a large rectangular one.  Does it have a horizontal curve to it?

I thought these questions would be rather important if you were to describe the appearance of a person from this tribe and their belongings.

Thanks in advanced for your thoughtful answers and responses.

Rocelin Ellis
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