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Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels
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« Reply #30 on: 07 March 2006, 11:28:00 »

Your idea is very near the druid magic, Orril - not too good.

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« Reply #31 on: 07 March 2006, 11:34:00 »

I don't think that's the way Dasson wanted elven magic to work, and should I end up developing it (which I might do if Dasson doesn't want to do it anymore and I find an elf expert to help me), that's not how I'd want it to work either.  What you described sounds more human than elven to me.  Or at least more primitive than the elves anyway.  


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« Reply #32 on: 07 March 2006, 14:02:00 »

The final decision on this entry (which is not the updated one sadly so I will need to hound my computer for the updated) was it was druidic in nature. Since it deals so closely with the ideals of the druids.

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« Reply #33 on: 07 March 2006, 14:39:00 »

Rheine was working on elven magic?  That's new to me..

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« Reply #34 on: 07 March 2006, 14:49:00 »

I'm not sure if she ever started, but she did say that she wanted to do it.  


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« Reply #35 on: 07 March 2006, 15:37:00 »

She wanted to do the inofficial magic users, witches, etc. but well, what I see on the RPG-board, she is very busy and doesn't even get around to post there, so I doubt she should start with such a project like elven magic.

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« Reply #36 on: 07 March 2006, 17:52:00 »

Well, it was just an idea... after all if I will do the elven magic I would need help, Silfer would be helping me (or that's what I think) and maybe Twen... And that idea needs a lot of work still, is just a very simple sketch.

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« Reply #37 on: 21 April 2006, 18:26:00 »

I was alerted of Twen by of this thread when I mentioned to her that this would be vedry good as Elven magic and she told me raise the point on this board so here it is.

Proposition:  For Elven Magic, as I know you will not allow me to do it, I believe that soemthing along the lines of what is seen in thispost should be used for Elven magic in a combination with the magic of nature.  The Elves magc would only affect nature and her creationa and thier spells would be recited through singing to the object they wished to affect.  The songs would vary based on the desired affect.

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« Reply #38 on: 21 April 2006, 18:35:00 »

Though I'm new and have only rescently joined Santharian, I made a comment about this type of magic in one of my first posts. What if it's not a group specific magic as it can be used to do a large variety of different things. I think it should be classified as a magic unto itself, perhaps there's a school for bards or a school that is specifically devoted to those who wish to learn this type of magic?

Is it elven in style? Yes.
Is it druic in style? Yes.

Perhaps elves and druids were the first to use this magic?
Perhaps elves were the first then shared it with the druids who in turn with elves shared it with the world and created a school?
I think this magic type has a lot of potential and a great 'all encompassing' school. It could be the merging point for all the other magics.

But there's my two cents.

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« Reply #39 on: 22 April 2006, 01:02:00 »

Drasil and Elshaynwen Eruraviel, such inquiries should be handled outside the thread I refer you to. As elven magic may one day be based around this style of magic, or something more druidic but this is all not part of this particular entry. But I do have alot of ideas that I would like to express to your ideas. So maybe creating a thread with your ideas would be in order Drasil? As this would draw others to the new discussion, quite likely people that would also have alot of good input.

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« Reply #40 on: 22 April 2006, 08:21:00 »

Well, so far we did not distinguish too much between elven magic and human magic. Xiamxian magic is NOT just human magic, but valid for all races - all are studying there, and clerical magic covers both, for both humans and elves (and other races) belief in the Aviaria. So though there are different magic approaches like Kalina's naming or the druid magic, so far elves don't have a different magic than the other races.

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« Reply #41 on: 22 April 2006, 10:29:00 »

Thank you very much for your input Lady Talia. Yet this raises more questions for me than I previously had. Arti talked about Elven magic and how it may vary from Ximaxian and Clerical magic: Here. As it seems somewhat undecided on how it varies, Drasil asked me if he should bring the concept up once more. Since very few things get done until they are talked about, making such a thread would seem to me as the most logical first step.

You are right in that their magic is no different than the other races but it does seem that it is a mixture of them. Exploring the nuances of their magic and in what direction it could be written in, sounds like an interesting discussion to myself and a few others.

As we strive to make all things on Santharia unique and original it is only natural that people look to the newer forms of magic I.E.. Naming, Druidic ect... For answers to old problems.

P.S.: Also stated within that thread. Quote from Arti " Are there elves in Ximax? I don't think so." Though it is debated there that a few elves would attend Ximax, yet I think that is more of an elfs expression to learn on a more indepth level than most other races. Basically attending Ximax to get an even broader view of the magics of the world.

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« Reply #42 on: 22 April 2006, 14:58:00 »

*cowers in fear as he knows Twen is going to get anfry for not creating a new thread*  It was my understanding that Elves learned magic in thier own school(I think its like the Twin Towers or something?) because they do not agree with teh human methods.  Also Elves are often considered to be a naturally magic people almost everywhere but here, though it is hinted.  It is my belief, and I think twen's also, that their magic would pertain to nature as it is a primary part of thier beliefs.  Also, naming seems very "elvish."  For when we do develop Elven magic, I think that it should be a combination of the two, that ALL elves can learn and have an innate ability to use.  I also believe that since this magic is borne inside them, they are not able to teach it to others, and noone, not even a half-elf has the ability to use it.  Also, as the elven school of magic is different, this form of magic should be allowed to be trained there, and maybe delegates venture out every year to teach all elves a basic knowledge of thier magic so they can use it to do minor things, e.g. sing fruit out a tree or such.

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« Reply #43 on: 22 April 2006, 23:51:00 »

I believe that elven magic is likely to be very similar to Ximaxian magic, given that Ximaxian magic originated from elven magic.  IMO, Ximaxian magic could be said to be a 'humanised' branch of elven magic, with significant orcish and dwarven influence.  Rayne seems to think that elven magic would be almost identical to xeua magic (or ecua, in the case of dark elves), which is close enough, I suppose.  


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« Reply #44 on: 23 April 2006, 00:47:00 »

I agree with Mina - we handled it this way all the time. And as stated before - everyone can learn magic, though elves are generally more talented to do it than other races. I doubt, that you cna change what we thought so far now, for there are small traits of ot in many entry, you can't change all these, you won't even find them. Developing a entirely new magic system is anyway of topic and banned for now. that doesn't mean, that elves can have a different way of using magic than the humans, but the base should be the same. It isn't so, that both races grew up totally independee from each other.
And what (most) other worlds do with their elves and magic is not of interest here .

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Edited by: Talia Sturmwind  at: 4/22/06 8:50
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