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« on: 24 August 2006, 09:24:48 »

                                Tree Possessing, Level VII


Overview: Tree Possessing is a difficult task indeed, for one they are big, living creatures, and for two they fight back ( who would want to be possessed?). This spell is useful because if the caster doesn't want to fight he can possess the tress around him to form an army or just one tree to help him/her.

Reagents: There are no real reagents for this spell but the tree.

Magical school: Earth,magical school

Spell effect: Tree Possessing affects the roots of a tree by munipulating it's behavour giving it a mind of the casters choosing. Whatever the caster wishes the trees to do the trees would dig themeselves out of the ground and do the casters wishes if the caster is successful in possessing the tree.

Casting procedure: The caster must approach a tree of any kind. The caster then puts both hands on the tree, focuses really hard, then muttures the magical formula. The tree will give a loud grunt as if being insulted, then the caster will give the tree his/her demands if the tree does not respond or move then two things could have happened. One, the caster made a common mistake or two, the tree is refusing to co-operate. When a tree refuses to co-operate, then the caster must repeat  the spell several times because it means the tree has the will to stand up for itself.

Target: The target for this spell is the tree or trees.

Range: The range for this spell is not limited if there are lots of trees like a forest, The caster will just have a harder and longer time possessing the trees.

Duration: The spell will wear off when the task has been completed or if the tree has been destroyed or if the caster has died.

Casting time: The casting time differs between the magi's ability to convince the tree it's doing good and his/her ability to produce and control the spell.

Counter: The only counter is if the trees are destroyed or if the caster has died.
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« Reply #1 on: 24 August 2006, 10:34:24 »

Sorry, but magic doesn't work like that. I suggest you to look for Silfer's 101, and te Corenized version that may be floating arround this forum. Now, the thigs you descrive my be posible if you use fire to animate the tree, or wind to make it move, either way is a high level spell, I think arround VIII or XI.
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« Reply #2 on: 24 August 2006, 17:09:01 »

I suggest to drop this spell. If possible at all, then I doubt it could be done with Earth magic (the current necromantic spells under Earth don't belong there btw).
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« Reply #3 on: 25 August 2006, 23:21:46 »

man i thought this site was cool but now i think it sucks cuz "magic doesn't work like that". it's magic thats the way it works, have you read like harry potter, or lord of the rings.magic is done by the flick of the wand. what this is is just silly.
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« Reply #4 on: 25 August 2006, 23:34:40 »

*waves a wand arond randomly and turns the newbie into a bunny*
Now tell me that isn't silly. 

Magic, or at least the magic of wizards (which is what we are describing here), is usually portrayed as something almost scientific.  The wizard has to know how things work, in order to create the effects he does.  Merely imitating a wizard's gestures and saying the same words won't be enough.  It's the same here, except that we actually describe the things the wizards know, instead of merely the gestures and incantations like most fantasy worlds do. 

Lord of the Rings, by the way, does not have magic in the usual sense.  The seemingly magical abilities of the Wizards like Gandalf are actually part of their divine nature, not something they learnt. 
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« Reply #5 on: 26 August 2006, 04:22:33 »

Well King of Santharia, most people that would appreciate the profound ideas that these brilliant developers come up normally know how to use grammar. Shall I translate for you:

W3ll King of Sanfaria most peeps dat wud apprichi8 da profound ideers dat dese brill developers cum up normalle no how 2 use gramr


Now please, don't insult the system that has taken alot of people eight years to create and troubleshoot.

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« Reply #6 on: 26 August 2006, 05:38:21 »

Hmmm, Decipher, sorry to interrupt you making fun of someone else's language skills, but you missed an entire word in your post.  Ouch.

Hint:  With....

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« Reply #7 on: 26 August 2006, 06:18:11 »

*Picks the bunny up and stares him square in the eyes* 
We here desire to make the science that is magic nearly as plausible as it can get, and to us the mere waving of a wand and recitation of pseudo-Latin words doesn't quite cut it.  You are more than welcome to your own opinion of how you think the arcane arts should be performed, but kindly do not attempt to impose that opinion upon the rest of us.  ;) 
By the way, I've always wondered what it's like to be a bunny.  When Mina's spell wears off, could you tell me how it was?  Big Grin  Unless, of course, Mina turns the wand upon me...  :D
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« Reply #8 on: 26 August 2006, 06:53:02 »

*Cought Strangling Vine Jar please cought cought* Well... seems that I'm not the best to say that Magic here (and in RL) doesn't works only like invocations, there's a complex metaphysical explanation behind those words and gestures, if you take a look over Wiccan religion you MAY (it means isn't for sure, not me yelling at you) understand what I mean.

Now, what you describe isn't imposible, just misplaced, try with fire, read other spells and you'll understand and get an idea, to be honest I think this is a cool idea, yet has to be developed properly.

Now Mina... Can you return him to human, he serves more in that way...
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« Reply #9 on: 26 August 2006, 07:15:48 »

thank you Soorrilmiesefer you actually encouraged me, unlike most.(points to Decipher Ziron). Now why can't this spell work? if someone would like to take over the development of this spell just say I and it's yours.Cuz i dun wan ta do it nomore home slice's. Honestly you thinki talk like that, well some words i do.
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« Reply #10 on: 26 August 2006, 07:36:14 »

I posted an spell, I think it can serve as example, please take a look on it and give me your opinion.
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« Reply #11 on: 26 August 2006, 07:38:47 »

I didn't say there was no way it could work, I said I don't see how it could be done with Earth and I suggested to drop it. Fire would probably be too complicated as well. The thing is, trees can't move on their own, they just stand still. That means you'd have to do some complicated stuff not just to controll them, but also to alter them that they can move in some way, which is why I would say that if it's possible it would be Xeuá. To compare, I believe (not 100% sure) Druids have to merge themselves with a tree (and thus sacrifice themselves) to create a dryad (sp?), which is a sentient, walking tree.

So can you make it a Xeuá spell? No sorry, Xeuá is currently off limits.

Aside from that, you would have to spend a lot of energy that could most likely be better used otherwise.
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« Reply #12 on: 26 August 2006, 17:15:00 »

Sorry,I had no right to make fun of you like that, It's just sometimes I get irritated by people who just turn up and except everything to revolve around them. I don't mean any disrespect, it's just your tone sounded incredibly ungrateful and I think thats unfair on all the people who have been trying to tell how magic works here. Once again I'm sorry.

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« Reply #13 on: 27 August 2006, 05:16:27 »

Err... Not sure Marv, theres some trees that move, who knows, maybe Santharia have some of them...

Although, giving a mind would certainly rewuire four mages, one of each element, or a Xeua, but still is posible, just not the correct time.
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« Reply #14 on: 27 August 2006, 12:34:21 »

if you ask me, this new spell of possesing trees could be done another way. like a summoning spell, in this case summoning ents or the santharian equivilant.

but possessing a tree won't be much of use. you could perhaps gain the perception of a tree by possessing it, but making it dig itself out of the ground is another story.

another way to go is to enchant the tree to have a certain property, in this case animation. there must be millions of ways to get the effect you want, but it might be best to go around possessing if possible. just doesn't seem... practical.
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