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« on: 25 August 2006, 15:53:51 »

It's a big story here in Austria, and I see it now also landed on CNN's front page - the case of an Austrian girl who had been abducted for 8 years (she's now 18) and finally could manage to flee (see here). Well, every now and then there are good news as well in this world :D
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« Reply #1 on: 25 August 2006, 16:21:31 »

Yes, it's big new here too. I'm glad for that girl. Similar cases here (Dutroux) didn't end so fortunate. Two of Dutroux's victims are still alive, but he's made more victims than the girl's abductor. There are at least 6 Dutroux victims, four of which have died. It's been suggested that the Austrian abductor got his inspiration from the cellar that Dutroux built.

Anyway, glad the girl is alive. Can you imagine being locked up for 8 years, only seeing one person? But at least she had 8 years. Julie, Melissa, Ann and Eefje didn't.

I wish those people would just stop for a moment and think about what they're doing to another human being. Of course, Dutroux was a complete psychopath and it wouldn't have stopped him, but that other guy apparently had enough of a conscience to realise that what he had done was wrong, otherwise he wouldn't have killed himself once she escaped.
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« Reply #2 on: 26 August 2006, 02:16:42 »

I'm not entirely sure if one could qualify that as 'good' news. True, it's great that she's alive and all, but being abused for 8 years in a row... It makes you wonder how much of her life has been/will be destroyed by that :S

Off topic: *points at Irid* You're Belgian too?
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« Reply #3 on: 26 August 2006, 02:56:23 »

Well, the media seem to know more than the police right now interestingly. Abuse is of course suspected, but not yet confirmed - CNN's headlines are definitely not based on facts.
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« Reply #4 on: 26 August 2006, 03:00:13 »

*shrugs* I think that when you have been held for 8 years you can call that 'abuse'. If not physical, then at least mentally.
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« Reply #5 on: 27 August 2006, 16:11:36 »

A movie that is much alike to this story is The Keeper. It is about a cop who abducts people thinking that he is helping them (aka, has a mental instability).

The people who do these things don't think like us, that is why they are able to do it. It's unfortunate that people are like this and it is a horrible thing for anyone to be abducted, but I'm glad to hear that this girl was able to get away.
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« Reply #6 on: 28 August 2006, 23:14:07 »

There's another movie (or novel) called The Collector which has a similar premise.

Eight years, wow. I'm trying to remember what I did eight years ago, and how much happened in the meantime. That was 1998 - I remember around this time my grandmother died. Ancient past, I can't imagine spending the time between then and now in some cellar. o_O

I don't know if it was CNN's headline that named her a "sex slave", but the BBC article I just read claims she only mentioned having sexual contact recently - long after the headline was published. Meaning it was speculation - but whatever sells the papers goes, apparently.
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« Reply #7 on: 30 August 2006, 05:37:24 »

This was on the BBC - it quoted her as having said he had "protected her from drugs, smoking and peer presure" and he had "become like her father" something like that anyway.  She kind of bonded with him.  Its seems really strange to think that someone could steal you away and force you to become like their daughter.  Slightly scary, but maybe slightly good too to think that people are able to bond with, maybe love, someone who has completly ripped their life apart.  Ok, getting a little deep now - i'm happy she has a second chance at a "normal" life, even though its going to be really difficult for her.
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« Reply #8 on: 30 August 2006, 18:08:15 »

That's actually not that strange. It's called the Stockholm syndrome (it's even added under famous cases).
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« Reply #9 on: 30 August 2006, 21:23:01 »

Of which Patty Hearst is likely the most dramatic and interesting. Can you imagine being abducted and then helping your captors in a bank robbery (where "helping" includes carrying an automatic pistol and threatening people) weeks later? Wow.

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By the way, she (Natascha Kampusch) wrote a public letter.
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« Reply #10 on: 07 September 2006, 05:23:30 »

Well, I fulfilled my Austrian "duty" today and watched Natascha's first exclusive 45 minutes interview on Austrian TV just like probably 99.9% of all Austrians ;)

And I have to say: She's really remarkable, quite a personality (as far as you can judge that when seeing a person for 45 minutes), and she stands on her on feet, makes the decisions on her own. She did exceptionally well and makes lots of 18 year olds - who are supposed to have some sort of proper education - look quite bad. lol And this under all these circumstances... Quite a different person from what so-called experts would have suspected her to be! Very impressive! thumbup
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