Wyvern's Roar

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Wyvern's Roar

« on: 13 February 2007, 05:07:32 »

"O hope that all thy limbs be broke,
Lest you become mere ash and smoke
For life's own sake, I pray, O Sire
Thou shaly not feel the Wyvern's Fire..."
Truly, it is better to live a poor life than to die by the Wyvern's Roar: if you are lucky, the fire will kill you almost instantly. Or it may take much time.
However, low-level mages attempting this have breathed not fire but uncomfortably humid air...

Spell Effect: The mage gathers fire ouns within their lungs, which is expelled when they feel ready to release it, as a hot ray of fire.

Casting Procedure: The mage utters the formula, and gathers the energy within them, until they can hold no more. It is essential that the mage does not breathe during this, lest their breath burn them. Then, they open their mouth, and the energy is expelled faster than they breathe, in one powerful jet.

Spell level: begins Level 2, but fire is unproduceable until level 4

Magical Formula: not added yet

Focus/Target: Anything in front of the mage.
Reagents: Although risky, sulphur can be placed on the tongue after uttering the formula.

Magical School: Fire magic

Spell Class: Sphere III, class 3: Pyrokinesis

Range: Up to five peds

Casting Time: As long as the mage can hold their breath.

Duration: Up to seven blinks

Counter Measures/Enhancing Measures: The fire cannot pierce metal or stone, and causing the mage to breathe would result in the spell's premature effect falling on them. The fire's strength greatly increases with the mage's level.


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #1 on: 13 February 2007, 05:13:15 »

Doesn't the hot air burn you throat and mouth while you are breading?


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #2 on: 13 February 2007, 05:16:58 »

breathing, not breeding I hope... mabye the spell also makes your throat fire proof? So a mage launches a fireball down your throat and you cast the spell, not only are you safe, but he is GONE!


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #3 on: 13 February 2007, 05:21:38 »

It would be safer to draw fire ounia to your own breath path....


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« Reply #4 on: 13 February 2007, 05:32:42 »

... so when you breathe you cast the ounia at great speed at the target.


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #5 on: 13 February 2007, 08:10:24 »

How is this different then fireball? You are just making the source a new location.


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« Reply #6 on: 13 February 2007, 08:20:40 »

Actually Drasil, the difference is actually the fact that fireball, as it name suggests, is more of a ball of fire which means one shot. While this spell on the otherhand, is a constant flame more like a Firebreath, which could in some ways be nicknames "Wyvern's Roar". So yes technically their is a difference while this one is more constant and close range.


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #7 on: 13 February 2007, 08:22:00 »

Also, why is a level 2 spell if its shpere 3?


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #8 on: 13 February 2007, 11:37:09 »

Producing the flame just outside your mouth would be perfectly fine. Rather showy though, because it could just as easily be produced at your hands or something, but still, nothing wrong with that. Producing the flame inside your lungs...ARE YOU INSANE?!

Not breathing is no protection against having our lungs completely burninated. If you gather enough Fire ounia, which it seems you do because you are trying to produce a flame, you get a flame. Unless you make the ounia express some other property. But even doing that so that your spell does not kill you is making it needlessly complicated.


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #9 on: 14 February 2007, 02:41:04 »

Inside, the fire is contained in Ahm, it only becomes Soor on leaving the Mage's mouth, because it is the air contact which does it. Breathing in would cause air contact inside you, as you so perfectly put it and, to quote Trogdor, "burninating" them. The lungs are used as an adequate storage space for the ahm ounia, and less energy is lost than holding it out in the cold. The flame is produced outside the mouth, from energy stored inside.


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #10 on: 14 February 2007, 05:16:00 »

Quote from: Eferno Tir on 14 February 2007, 02:41:04

...Inside, the fire is contained in Ahm, it only becomes Soor on leaving the Mage's mouth, because it is the air contact which does it. Breathing in would cause air contact inside you, as you so perfectly put it and, to quote Trogdor, "burninating" them...

If, as you say, contact with wind ounía switches internal fire ounía in the passive áhm state into the active soór state, then every single breath we took would cause our lungs to burst into flame. We can't just say that this effect would only occur during the working of the Wyvern's Roar invocation; there aren't, as far as I know, exceptions to the natural laws of the Caelerethian universe.

Did that make any sense? undecided


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #11 on: 14 February 2007, 06:36:50 »

Yeah, it made sense, and is true, I guess... could that be what creates body-heat in Caelreth? Makes sense... ish...
Yeah, it would only cause mild warmth usually, it's the concentration of the ouns that makes it so strong: usually, there's barely any fire in the air, but here, there's tons of the stuff. That's why it works.


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #12 on: 18 February 2007, 00:22:23 »

Also Wyverns (Demon Drakes) are found on Nybelmar...so I assume that it would have a different name unless created by a Nybelmarian 'exchange student'....


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #13 on: 18 February 2007, 04:22:08 »

If the fire comes from the same place that creates body heat would someone feel a chill from doing this?

It would make sense if the spells effect increased with lung capacity some mages with a higher lung capacity might find this spell more effective then other fire spells.


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Re: Wyvern's Roar

« Reply #14 on: 18 February 2007, 12:46:59 »

Body heat is bsically due to the presence of Fire ounia expressing the heat property, which would be nearly all of them, most likely. There's no place that creates body heat. It is not impossible to feel a chill if you use too much of your own Fire ounia for spells, but that is unlikely to happen. Fire ounia make up about a quarter of the ounia in any living being, and using enough to have such an effect might be quite dangerous.

Fire ounia does not need contact with Wind ounia to produce fire. What is needed is merely a high enough concentration of Fire ounia. While this is not likely to happen naturally without the presence of Wind, it is not too hard for a Fire mage to force Fire ounia close together to produce flames in places where no Wind is present, I think. I don't see much point to doing that though.

As you have observed, concentrating Fire ounia at a point causes its influence at that point to become so great that a flame will be produced at that point, most likely in the form of a fireball. However, as I have pointed out, doing that in your lungs is a very bad idea. It is of course possible to prevent this by keeping the links between the Fire ounia ahm or make them not express properties like heat, but that is just making things needlessly complicated as I've mentioned. It would be so much simpler to concentrate the Fire ounia just outside one's mouth (if you want to give the appearance of breathing fire), or a more conventional place such as your hands.


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