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« on: 16 August 2007, 10:05:01 »

Well, this here is a work in progress.  I like the sky and they water here.  I also like the trees and buildings that I have so far.  The one thing I am disliking about this is the hills.  Any comments and suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: 16 August 2007, 10:06:50 »

You forgot to post the link.

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« Reply #2 on: 16 August 2007, 10:10:50 »

Oops, let me fix that.

Edit:  There, fixed as an attachment.
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« Reply #3 on: 16 August 2007, 18:52:00 »

Okay, here is a newer version.  I've done a little work to the outer two hills.  Added some shading and some texture to the middle hill as well. 

Edit: I also reduced the image size as the first one was a little large.

Let me know what you think.  Should I add anything else?  Is it done?  Comments welcome.
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« Reply #4 on: 16 August 2007, 18:53:27 »

I was going to post that the hills in the first one lack definiton, but they look better now
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« Reply #5 on: 16 August 2007, 18:54:43 »

Should I add a little more texture/definition to the middle hill, or does it look good?
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« Reply #6 on: 17 August 2007, 00:05:16 »

I think a subtle addition of a more grassy texture on the middle hill would be an improvement...
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« Reply #7 on: 17 August 2007, 00:57:40 »

I'll see what I can do after I get some sleep.  Being up from 7am one day till 12pm the next is not good for a person....*clunk*
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« Reply #8 on: 17 August 2007, 21:36:46 »

Is this planned to be background for a focal illustration, Gar, or is it still in progress as a simple landscape?  At present there is not enough texture and interest in the hills to create realism for the latter, as you probably know.

However, the skyscape and the water are particularly good (I HATE doing water so I'm very jealous of the nice ripple effect you've got going there...) - add a bit more 'contrast' to the sky so that it runs from light to dark more dramatically and you'll get a really powerful sense of depth in that composition.

And if you are only interested in doing this as a background, let me say you can paint bg for me any day!  I can see painting a spectacular crested heron or something similar against this, for example...   wanna collaborate sometime?  :)
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« Reply #9 on: 17 August 2007, 22:50:04 »

Thanks for your comments Judy.

Yes, I am planning this piece as a background piece for something else.  What, I am unsure of at the moment.  I've done a few sketches over it and I am still a little unsure about it.

I like your idea with the sky and I'll try to work this in with the next update.

Looking upon this piece, I've noticed that the one forest on the right hill seems a little off.  So I think I might redo that one, I thank the for layers.

If you have any idea as to what could be the focal point of this, I'd love some suggestions.
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« Reply #10 on: 17 August 2007, 23:07:52 »

How about a bird - as I suggested before - or a boat?  Both seem very natural here.

Sorry for the really crude cut-n-paste hack jobs below, but as I'm not at my home computer I just used stock photos and Paint to give you the basic visual idea.

The bird would be mostly a silhouette with golden light seeping in around the edges of the feathers - quite lovely - while the boat would be equally black but with cleaner lines against the light.  Both, as you can see, would be dramatic....

See what you think and what you'd like to do!  Or simply add an interesting building at the classic 1/3 intersection to give it some punch...
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« Reply #11 on: 17 August 2007, 23:08:48 »

Oh the boat example looks pretty.

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« Reply #12 on: 17 August 2007, 23:14:50 »

I like the boat example to be honest and I can picture the overall effect.

This classic 1/3 position, whats that?  Never taken art class sadly, so not really up to date with some of these terms and Google didn't help much here on this one.
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« Reply #13 on: 30 August 2007, 11:31:29 »

'The Rule of Thirds' is what I should have called it:  Googling that phrase will get you the useful Wiki entry at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds... and here's an illustration I've divided to show you the principle.


If you visually cut up your illustration or photo area into thirds both ways, there are four 'intersections'.  Placing your point of interest on or near one of those intersections gives you a visual balance that seems to appeal to the human psyche... whereas putting it right in the centre is often boring (unless you are creating a deliberate symmetry).   

Horizon lines, in the same way, should be at the bottom third or top third rather than in the centre of your field, and strong vertical lines should be on one or the other of the vertical thirds.   Of course these are general principles, and when you are confident can be broken for effect in all sorts of ways.

Note in the illustration below that the woman's head - main POI - is almost exactly on one of the intersection points, as is the minor point of the picnic basket.  Her whole body is almost contained by the four points, which also helps to strengthen the sweep of the eye round the photo.

Hope that helps!

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« Reply #14 on: 30 August 2007, 22:44:12 »

Not to add anything to what Bard Judith said earlier, who did an awesome job explain the Rule of Thirds, but I have noticed some things.

The rule of thirds also helps keep pictures feel balanced I noticed, and having trouble with sysmtery, the rule of the thirds has often been a blessing for me.

Some other artist also use the rule of thirds to convey depth or movement by pointing different objects at different Perspectives/Shape to occomplish their object.  Like the famous picture of the Ballet School.  If you look closely, you will notice that famous picture also follows the rule of thirds.

Most paintings do, even unintentionally.

As for the picture itself, I think you've done a great job conveying different textures.  Especially the ripples in the water, you also got a great concept of light in the picture.  I can't help but be a little jealous.  *turns green*

Keep up the good work.
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