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« Reply #45 on: 22 June 2008, 22:45:00 »
No alcohol now, Nsiki - first have to finish an update :)

Okeydokey, I've added that additional paragraph in now as well!
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« Reply #46 on: 22 June 2008, 23:06:03 »
Well, tent washing never occured to me.. but it might be a good idea and I will ask you sometimes later to come and do some cleaning ;)
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« Reply #47 on: 22 June 2008, 23:39:59 »
Very well....
How about, after the update, we'll all meet in Tal's tent, I'll serve some Artwine, clean the tent, and then maybe, MAYBE, I'll take you over to Kyttareng?
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« Reply #48 on: 23 June 2008, 01:33:54 »
Btw, we have no tents, but domes, but you are surely welcome in the Kirilit dome. And bring with you some Artiwine, you might not be able to drink Shendar fire ;)
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« Reply #49 on: 23 June 2008, 06:39:47 »
That's it, Talia, I'm coming up with some fiery Eyelian spirits!
Ready for some Nsikiwine?
Only joking, I'm not THAT arrogant ;)
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« Reply #50 on: 23 June 2008, 07:51:14 »
Nisiki,  I just read the researchers part in the Eyelian entry - it is too much praise for me, others have contributed to other entries just as much as I have here.

I think it would have been better to better describe what the part was, the author has done, like I proposed above.

"The first researcher who wrote about the Eyelians for the great compendium was Capher, one of the most famous personality in Santharia. It is said, that he not only is  a strong and sturdy man who has journeyed far and wide across Sarvonia to learn more about not only the Eyelians and several other tribes as well,  but that he is the last of the shapeshifting dragons.

Lady Tiaa, a scholar most widely known for her studies of her Native Aeruillin, expanded on Capher's constitutive researches, where the newest contributor to the compendium regarding the Eyelians, Nsiki...  Yourth,  was due to his own Eyelian heritage able to bring  more light into subjects like music, society and the origin of names.
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Please ask Art to remove me there, maybe exclude you, for there is already mentioned in the  last line what you did.
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« Reply #51 on: 23 June 2008, 07:57:44 »
So you want yourself excluded, and possibly me included?
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« Reply #52 on: 24 June 2008, 04:23:02 »
Nsiki, I started with feeding SNG with your syllables, and you can see first results here. So far so good, the names look pretty unique :)

However, I cannot go really much further at this point, because I notice upon entering the syllables that you didn't take one important thing enough into account - that female endings should be quite distinct from the male names. You have varying beginnig syllables, but there's no proper scheme how to make the female names distinctive in the ending. Look at the other tribes we have defined in the mentioned thread - there you see how such a system is established. It's not only an -a at an end, but at the Avennorians you have various combinations of -rid, -rig, -run, -rike, -the, -veig, -vig etc. Such things are missing at the moment at the Eyelian female names definitions. Looking at a name should make it pretty much clear if the name is male or female.

You could estabish schemes like having female names end on i'i, y'y or j'j and make for example i a very prominent part of an ending, something that is pretty clear at any rate that it stands for something female for this culture.

I suggest to take a look again at the female endings and redefine them with a very clear scheme, then I can progress.

P.S. Feel free to move some syllables from the male section to the female in order to accomplish this, don't worry about the names I created yet. Important is to get the definition right. If it is fine, I'll start making names again :)
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« Reply #53 on: 24 June 2008, 05:20:56 »
Hmmmm....
And I based all of those of off a blend of real names, or at least real nomenclatures....
Well, then, another project.
Keep in mind, Im out of town right now, so computer use is a bit intermittent. I'll do my best to get that up in the next week or two.
Thanks Art!
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« Reply #54 on: 25 June 2008, 03:46:31 »
Boo!

I was looking through the Eyelian information page, and I saw this section: "They may not flaunt the most expensive of jewels and gems, but any piece of jewelry they wear usually has a great meaning behind it. Little girls and boys have their earrings pierced, women usually wear various bracelets and necklaces, and men may wear wrist braces and necklaces. A traveling Eyelian is often taken as a Rover because of their bright ornaments, although unlike the Butterfly Rovers, Eyelians do not wear more jewelry than needed. They do not purchase or wear items just because it would look nice. Each item they adorn is because it will or does mean something to them. "

Can I develop on this? I have some ideas as to what sort of jewelry could be worn - brooches in the shape of the individual's bo’en, perhaps? As a sort of coming-of-age ceremony, one must use whatever materials they can find to fashion this brooch, earring, necklace, bracelet or ring...

Another quick idea for jewelry could be that, for every important even in an Eyelian's life, a certain colour of ribbon could be sewn onto the clothes of that person... for example, when they fall in love, marry, have children, tame a bo’en, a family member dies... this could be a sort of public display of that person's life, so they can learn more about each other simply through these ribbons.

Sorry if any of this stuff contradicts other information - I haven't finished reading the page yet.
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« Reply #55 on: 25 June 2008, 03:50:19 »
Nope no contradictions, and an Eyelian Jewelry entry would be very nice!
Perhaps instead of ribbons little braided strings, more tassel-like?
I'm also working on an Eyelian body-mod entry that uses piercings and tattoos in a similar manner, so you may want to say that "some Eyelians prefer the old ways, and bear tattoos or piercings to commemorate these major events."
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« Reply #56 on: 25 June 2008, 03:59:59 »
Yes, tassels sound good. Braided mult-coloured strings with beaded ends, frayed in such a way depending on the type of event that had taken place... *goes off on a tangent*

*returns to present* Oh, right.

This tassel tradition was used up until recent times, when tattooing was first discovered. Now, many of the newer generations of Eyelians use tattoos and/or piercings to commemorate great events in their lives, while those of older times still braid their own ribbons. Unlike the tassels, tattoos and piercings can be placed almost anywhere on the body, and so the location of these body decorations now also play a part in how important an event was. The head is usually the most favoured spot for love and children, while the feet are reserved for deaths. Anything in between is usually found on the chest, arms or hands.
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« Reply #57 on: 25 June 2008, 04:16:43 »
Very nice!
Im looking forward to this!
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« Reply #58 on: 25 June 2008, 04:35:45 »
Is there a certain way in which I should present this, or can I just write up a little article to be added to the big information page?
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« Reply #59 on: 25 June 2008, 04:43:12 »
  HOW TO DO PRODUCTS AND INDUSTRIES

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      Name of Product/Industry
      E.g. - Paper, Salt Farming, Dyes & Stains, Tanning, Honey
So here, Eyelian Jewelry
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      Overview
      A general introduction to the subject, giving a few basic details on what it is and why it is important.
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      Description of the Product
      What does it look like (and/or 'smell, taste, feel, sound' like)? Are there different grades, types, kinds? How much do they cost? Is it sturdy and easily transported, or perishable?
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      Method of Production
      What are the ingredients and materials required? How are they processed? Are there several steps or middlemen? Is one person involved from start to finish or is it a many-handed operation? What are the amounts? What are the results? Any by-products, either useful or harmful?
    * Check the Eyelian entry, under trade.

      Areas of Production
      Where is the product made - urban areas or country, on-location or in a 'factory', cottage industry/single proprietor/guild-manufactured? What areas of the province, what cities or towns are known for this industry? Trade relationships that depend on this product? How is it commonly transported and in what form?
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      Usage
      What for is this product used? How is it used? What is made out of it? etc.
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      History of the Industry
      Give us some idea about how long this process has been known to the continent, or at least in Santharia. Any notable discoveries, breakthroughs or innovations in the manufacturing process? Any famous inventors or experimentors? Any disasters?
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      Lore and Legend
      Some interesting details and creative touches can be added here. You may be able to combine this with usage, or have both sections referencing each other.
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