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« on: 04 February 2009, 06:17:24 »

I can't seem to find the original thread(s) about it, but I'm sure some of you remember what's it about :)

Here is another crack at it. Warg still needs work...
Comments welcome!
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« Reply #1 on: 04 February 2009, 06:43:55 »

The orc looks pretty cool, Faugar! :) I don't remember anymore what exactly the description was, so I don't know if it matches, but all in all it's a great pose and expression.

As for the warg: Guess I've asked that before, but what has happened to that inital idea with the warg standing on a that lying tree?  The warg back then was way too large, but the idea was pretty spectatcular, so I miss that one.
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« Reply #2 on: 04 February 2009, 07:22:40 »

Hey, Faugar.

I guess you knew I'd be along sometime soon, eh?  ;)

What I like about this image is that it shows an Orc that isn't either (a) about to kill someone, or (b) has just killed someone.
Alysse and I are trying to subtly change the perception that all Orcs are blood-crazed murderers, and this picture is exactly the kind of thing we need.

However...........(you just knew that was coming, right?)

Perhaps his nose could be a bit wider?

I would prefer his boots to be less 'tailored' in appearance. Maybe take them to mid-shin/just below knee height, and made of animal skin with the fur showing at the top of the boot? And tied to the leg with criss-crossing leather/hide thongs or straps?

I like the fur coat. I had thought originally to change it to a fur jerkin over a rough cloth shirt. What do other folk think?

I see him as belonging to the Ashz-oc. The only other extreme northern tribe is the Osther-oc, and they aren't really Warg users. I want to try and suggest rumours that the Ashz-oc have somehow got Elf blood in them, and as such they will either have small tusks, or none at all (see the pic in the Ashz-oc entry. No tusks!). So you could make his tusks slightly shorter.

His hair needs to be coarser and thicker. It looks like he has just left a salon. Could you put in a couple of braids or dreadlocks? And a couple of bead/bone ornaments?

Oh, just noticed. The tip end of his spear doesn't line-up with the rest of it.

Sorry about all that, Faugar. It may seem like I don't appreciate what you have done, but believe me, I am in awe of your skill, and look forward to seeing this finished. We need more Orc pictures! *Gets out banner and parades in front of Faugars studio*

@ Arti. Garrett and I have been looking over that pic recently, trying to decide what needs doing. She has got a link to it, I think.
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« Reply #3 on: 04 February 2009, 08:29:28 »

Is this the one you were looking for Art?
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« Reply #4 on: 04 February 2009, 08:40:29 »

Ummm...
Can we please Dev that?
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« Reply #5 on: 04 February 2009, 08:53:51 »

Oo, I love it!  Get rid of the fur coat, and he'd look like he could be on the Orcish version of the Chippendale calendar--what a hunk!  (Envisons scantily clad orcs lounging about and attempting to look broody and sexy.   Collapses in laughter, rolling about helplessly)

Seriously, he's great.  Make the warg a little bigger and it could be a portrait of Tharoc and Valkyree, even.

But Tharoc does have a point, generally this orc ought to be a little scruffier.  Right now he's just too, too...tidy looking.  Although I like the idea of maybe some basic decorative beading on the clothes or bone/quill/feather/ ornaments in the hair.  

Way to go, Faugar! clap clap

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« Reply #6 on: 04 February 2009, 11:31:28 »

Very well done. thumbup

Wonder if it might not just be easier to lose the fangs, make the warg a bit more Icemuttish, and call the whole thing "Remusian on the Hunt".  He is, afterall, goodlooking enough to be one of those swarthy northern men.  Just a thought. :P
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« Reply #7 on: 04 February 2009, 16:28:03 »

With regard to the old Warg picture which people seem to have decided is un-useable:

The surroundings (and the expressions/mood of the people and surroundings) is near exactly what I had envisioned for the Meelaimada of the Falsejungles. They roam around on Giant Animals to navigate the the decaying remains of their once great rainforests- and if you were inspired to finish the sketch as it is (without toning down the size of the creature etc.) than it might make a very interesting tribe picture (and would give me an excuse to write the entry ASAP).

What do you think, Faugar?

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« Reply #8 on: 05 February 2009, 00:39:08 »

So, Deci, are you suggesting this is a normal Nyblemarian-type warg, or a specifically magically enhanced beast?   I sort of thought that wargs, as riding animals, were like small horses in terms of size (between 14 and 15 hands high, since most orcs are a little shorter than humans)   If you ask me, this gorgeous beastie looks more like it's related to a Cartashian bear than a wolf type animal. But I'm no warg expert and could be wrong.

I do love the picture though.  Hey, perhaps it could be a (tame) Blood bear or Thar's bear, with those huge clawed paws, blunt muzzle and heavily muscled build? Or a Nyblemarian bear from the Falsejungles, used as a Meelaimadian steed, as Deci suggests?  Just a thought.

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« Reply #9 on: 05 February 2009, 00:51:03 »

Well the Meelaimada usually go around on Giant Playtpuses, but I have in my notes mentioned that the sentries use Giant Bear-like animals!
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« Reply #10 on: 05 February 2009, 01:11:14 »

*mutters something incoherent about giant platipi*

And people think I'M the Nybelmarian with the crazy ideas...
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« Reply #11 on: 05 February 2009, 01:14:51 »

Well aren't you? :P
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« Reply #12 on: 05 February 2009, 01:20:04 »

Well, we're both pretty crazy....
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« Reply #13 on: 05 February 2009, 01:22:28 »

Decipher has the crazy ideas, im just crazy in general. The real fun starts when i take one of Deci's good ideas and Mirafy them a bit...
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« Reply #14 on: 05 February 2009, 01:34:41 »

ehm. back on topic :) Thanks for comments and suggestions all!

I found the original thread. It's supposed to be a Rhom-oc orc tribe. So not the Ashz-oc (sorry Tharoc).
Thank you for valuable comments though. Changing the clothing and face like suggested is no problem. Can't remember what ornaments/jewelry the orc should have, I'll have to look up the entry. Unless anyone has a good suggestion (keeping the tribe in question in mind)?

As for the original picture (with the huge warg and the tree): The problem is that of a scale and perspective. I the tree is supposed to be normal sized, I can't place too much behind it, because it will obstruct the view. I'm thinking of placing the orc in the front, beside the tree (to the right), and changing the warg so it will be climbing over the tree, or standing on it with his front paws, sniffing/looking to the left, while the orc will be looking to the right, both of them hunting. Would that be appropriate? We'd loose the female and the kid of course. I'll try to make a sketch of it asap, to make myself more clear.

Whatever the choice, I want to finish the orc tribe pic first, and then we can see what to do with the other one (how to change it to suit another description perhaps).
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