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« Reply #15 on: 05 February 2009, 03:57:37 »

On that tree thingy: Well, the tree doesn't need to be "normal sized" as you put it, Faugar... If you imagine that an orc child sits on it, and it is placed next to a full grown orc, it could as well work and get a cool effect across ;)
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« Reply #16 on: 05 February 2009, 04:57:10 »

Hey Faugar. I've found a few things in the Rhom-oc entry which may be of use to you.

The Rhom-Oc are smaller than other known orc tribes and appear weaker in stature.
(Your chap seems to be anything but weak in stature!)

Most Rhom-Oc wear decoration made of bones and teeth from their prey. Their long hair is worn open or in long braids over their shoulders to give some protection from the cold.

The Rhom-Oc clothe in leather and fur. Most of them wear sturdy leather trousers and leather shirts for riding and fur jackets or vests to protect from the cold. In winter another wide fur coat is wrapped around the body. The warrior use straps of wolf, bear or warg fur attached to their clothing to mark their alignment to these particular beasts.
(I like the idea of a belt made from the tails of reindeer. Any good?)

The Rhom-Oc's feet stand in high fur boots that are fixed to the leg with leather straps to connect smoothly with the trousers and prevent the wind from blowing into the clothes.

Rhom-Oc also wear all kinds of talismans, amulets or necklaces made of bones or teeth for spiritual protection or help.

Apart from that, the only other snippet I could see being of interest to you for this image is that the extreme northern boundary of their territory is the Galthorn Mountains. This could explain the snowy looking background.
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« Reply #17 on: 05 February 2009, 05:11:34 »

Thanks a lot Tharoc, useful info!

Ok, here are 2 version of a sketch, using the fallen tree. What do you think?
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« Reply #18 on: 05 February 2009, 07:57:36 »

Oh, that's good - that's very good. Maybe just bring in the jaw a little bit, firm up those paws, and give the Orc some kind of bow/javelin. Other then that, I like it :)

Note- I prefer the second version.
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« Reply #19 on: 05 February 2009, 11:17:54 »

I prefer the second one as well.. assuming the second one has his right hand on his thigh.

I like that the other orc pic is of a Rhom-oc.  It gives me a better picture of whom the Remusians are constantly er... interacting with.

And Tharoc, I still woul;d like to hash out some general notes for our two cultures history together.  When you have time, of course. :)
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« Reply #20 on: 05 February 2009, 14:54:21 »

I completely love it!  (number two, the one titled 'copy')

The composition is classically Faugarian, with strong, solid lines leading the eye.    A great stance from the hunter, and the warg is somehow both powerful and endearing. 

 Might I suggest that just the hint of a small cowering animal hiding in the hollow end of the tree would give the picture a great deal of humour?   The proud orc and the suspiciously alert warg, oblivious to humble 'prey'...   perhaps that third element would pull the triangle out more strongly and add to the characterization.  Just my two sans!
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« Reply #21 on: 05 February 2009, 16:20:02 »

Thaniks!

Nsiki - when you say "bring in the jaw" - what do you mean? I'm not sure about javelins or bows.. seem like a coward's weapons to me ;)

Altario - THIS is supposed to be a Rhom-oc orc as well, not sure if that's what you ment?

Judy - the idea with a small creature hiding in the tree was originally planned (that's why it's hollow). Great minnds think alike, eh? :)
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« Reply #22 on: 05 February 2009, 19:06:00 »

Impressive... very nicely come together. I think we'll be hearing some squeaks of delight (albeit very manly ones) from Tharoc when he sees these.

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« Reply #23 on: 05 February 2009, 22:28:35 »

Well, I'M squeaking with delight! (but not particularly in a manly way, I'm afraid  :D)

I love this picture, and the idea of a little leveret or greycat huddled in the log is great! (not to mention usable in another entry, perhaps, as neither of those have a picture yet)

I have to agree with Nsiki, that the jaw is a bit too heavy.  He looks rather like a Neanderthal "Missing Link".  But if you just bring it back a bit, and make the chin smaller, it should work fine.  The second pose is really good, I like it too.  thumbup thumbup

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« Reply #24 on: 06 February 2009, 00:46:31 »

squeek, squeek.......Ahemmm........HUmmmmm......SQUUEEK SQUUEEK.

Tharoc like Faugar drawin's. A lot. Tharoc hug Faugar..........where he go?

I'm going to be awkward here, and say that I like the Warg in the second pic, and the Orc's pose in the first pic. It looks like he has been hunting all day, and is getting slightly weary.

I agree about the chin thing as well. A bit to 'Don Corleone' at the moment, methinks ;)

I also agree that a small prey animal inside the log would be an ideal and amusing way of extending the triangle. For extra amusement, perhaps make it just a pair of worried eyes peering out of the darkness?

Right, I'm off to the bar to buy Faugar a large beer for adding so magnificently to our Orc pics collection.
(Just thought. This could be out of Tharoc's holiday album, labelled "Cousin Trog, posing as usual!") grin
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« Reply #25 on: 06 February 2009, 05:25:20 »

Yeah, I like it as well! That tree just gives the whole thing a new perspective which is quite unique - and the poses of warg and orc fit perfectly :D - The first warg is a bit small, the second one is pretty fine as far as I'm concerned. But of course you need to listen to our orcish experts mainly, but this looks really good to me!  thumbup

Oh, and add to that a smaller animal that's hiding from orc and warg, a bit of an epic scenary in the background and it will look perfect! clap
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« Reply #26 on: 06 February 2009, 05:37:54 »

all right! now we need to decide which version of the orc (everybody voted for the second Warg). I must admit that I'm having a hard time myself. I'm not sure which pose would suit the character of the tribe better.

What about the background/scenery and folliage? what kind of plants can I put in there?
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« Reply #27 on: 06 February 2009, 05:38:56 »

I al soooo tempted to 'shop Arts head into the end of that log right now evil
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« Reply #28 on: 06 February 2009, 05:52:54 »

Well, Alysse and Tharoc said it better then I did, so listen to them ;)
The first pose seems more natural, the second stronger, so it really dpends on what you want to accomplish.
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« Reply #29 on: 06 February 2009, 05:56:37 »

My vote is for the first Orc. And I'm the Orc guy, so I win by default! :P
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