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« on: 05 February 2009, 02:11:59 »

Since there is no deal description fo the Caelerethian moon, and the Ter'ei'Vikh are so heavilly associated with it, would there be much objection if i were to define its features and cycles?

Be forewarned, the idea i have in mind is rather unusual, and will change several things you though you knew about the world! (because you made assumptions that covered certain gaps in our information)
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« Reply #1 on: 05 February 2009, 03:05:53 »

What exactly are your plans Mr. Mira?  Will it still wax and wane every 28 days for example?  (Or is it every 30 in santh?)  On a monthly basis anyway :P
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« Reply #2 on: 05 February 2009, 03:48:48 »

Make sure to check with Talia!  cool

I think it is extremely important that a moon concept gets finally up on the site. Personally I'm pretty much indifferent to the exact details, as I tend towards more fantastic approaches and bend it the way we need it later in case we need it, but this doesn't correspond with everyone else's approach. But whenever there's a chance to get that up and it has the support of several people, it should be done. If your concept gets through that discussion, I'd be happy to accept the outcome.
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« Reply #3 on: 05 February 2009, 05:03:34 »

I don't know what is already set in stone here, but perhaps the cycle of the moon can coincide and compete with that of the sun in much the same way as the vessel of Silpion does with that of Laurelin's fruit in the mythology of Middle-Earth. Or more accurately, the way it did before Manwë captured and controlled the two.
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« Reply #4 on: 05 February 2009, 06:48:18 »

I have formulated a rather elaborate system involving three rotational cycles, a myth of the Twelve as to how it came to be, and several (rather wrong, but reasonable) speculations of scolars on its composition and nature.

It WILL wax and wane. But only once per year. It will also have a weekly and monthly cycle. I'm awaiting a go ahead! or stay away from my precious! from Talia before trying to make it all into text that other people would understand. Its a bit confusing to myself as well.
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« Reply #5 on: 05 February 2009, 16:15:57 »



Mira, there is no need to check back with me, I have laid down my cosmological responsibilities. I won't argue anymore for what I think is the better approach - which is, Art, not less fantastic as your "Let's do it first and think/bend later". (It is not a "Yes we Can", for that approach does not contradict my way of developing). It is mainly your site and your world and if you don't appreciate my approach, I won't fight for it. Judy is the same opinion as you, and as the two most important people think so, why should I try to convince others? I don't feel the need to do so anymore.


Mira, tell us more about your three rotational cycles (weekly, monthly?), for until now I see only several ??? in my head.

If I think it makes still sense, I write you a list (in the form of questions) what for possibilities you have (no one ever thinks of) how the moon (I assume ow it is a somewhat solid or gaseous object) could move in the world of Caelereth. From there you can always choose what you like, skip what irritates you, neglect what is too complicated OR add new things.
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« Reply #6 on: 06 February 2009, 00:21:37 »

Oh, i know it can, physically, rotate the way i want it.

The downside of this is that at least in our universe, would never do so because a rapidly spinning rotation axis is unstable and loses to much energy in a very short time.

Then again, Caelereth's sun shouldn't be able to function either. I'll try to formulate something coherent from my explanation to Decipher sometime soon.
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« Reply #7 on: 18 February 2009, 12:52:16 »

*passes the idea to Talia*

Miss Talia is the Cosmology expert, so I give her the official stamp of overseer on this one.
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« Reply #8 on: 18 February 2009, 19:01:07 »

Remember also that whatever you write about the moon will affect the tides!
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« Reply #9 on: 18 February 2009, 22:38:53 »

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I dont see why it would HAVE to affect the tides....
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« Reply #10 on: 19 February 2009, 01:24:34 »

It should affect SOMETHING...if not the tides, how about weather conditions, humidity, gravity (then everyone will gain weight at a certain time of the month, not just women  :D ) or behavior (do we have the concept of "lunatic", as someone affected by the moon?)  Anyway, that would be at least as interesting as tides, if not more so.


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« Reply #11 on: 19 February 2009, 02:47:49 »

I dont see why it would HAVE to affect the tides....

Well, it would be nice if it did, since all the maritime armillary discs I wrote up depend on the motion of the moon! So, yeah, if  the moon at least has some sort of maritime usefulness, it would make my life easier.

@Mira: If you decide against maritime involvement for the moon, please tell me so that I can revise my entry. And if there is any special info you've come up with regarding the relationship (or lack thereof) between the moon and sailors, I'd be much obliged for the information.
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« Reply #12 on: 19 February 2009, 04:31:05 »

I think Alysse's mention of 'lunatics' is a valid point, Mira. It would aid me greatly in a future (major) entry if certain quarters of society were affected by the moon's actions/rotation/phases.

Pretty please?

Don't make me use the trifle on you.............again.
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« Reply #13 on: 19 February 2009, 05:29:16 »

Trifle?


Ooo, I LIKE trifle!  Especially with extra custard sauce, yum!   :D
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« Reply #14 on: 19 February 2009, 05:33:52 »

Mira has connection issues, right? Hmmm, maybe he could work offline on his ideas? ;)
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