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[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Alright, I hope it is done now.

I don't copy it in here, but post a pdf, because it would be additional time for me to colour all again etc. I hope this is acceptable

[Mina]

The first ,house of magic‘ is opened, the first school of the order established. As first headmaster, a high-ranked wind mage of Ximax, Xaron Worthwhile, is installed. His task is for now to organise the forming of the order, to recruit members, initiate dependencies in the other provinces and big cities of Santharia.

I'm a little confused here.  Why is the order establishing its own schools?  I thought its role was to regulate existing schools, such as the Academy of Ximax?  Also, do you mean grandmaster (of the Order)?  I'm not sure why a headmaster of a school would be performing those tasks. 

As for the new guild, I don't mind the concept itself, but what is its role in history meant to be?  It doesn't seem to be mentioned in the rest of the entry at all, so for now it mostly seems to be just trivia.  Do you have future plans for it? 

some (lower) standards fixed

Is this really possible?  Since the Order is, if I understand it correctly, basically a branch of the government meant to enforce certain standards, won't having lower standards than the Order's be more or less illegal? 

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

I did not think, that Ximax would need a regulation, for me it is high above any other school, more like an elite school, its standards higher than any other school anyway. Thalambath might be a different problem, having a different magic. But I assume now, that most other 'normal' magic is Ximax magic.
I think it is in the interest of the Order to have own schools, additional ones, where possibly magic is more strictly handled. Where they have ore influence on how magic is seen and where they can influence the youth. It is a Order, not a guild. The non-order schools have to have a certificate from the Order, that they are up to the required standard. 

The guild is born with out of opposition. There the people gather to rail against the order, they are in a kind of grey area. Santharia is huge and the Order far away where the guild has its followers. Or nearby, depends on the circumstances. Could well be, that the order will not like (or even try to ban the one to one teaching). I just wanted to add some colour to the magic landscape. No plans yet, was to worn out to have more for the Lysarian entry, but I might come up with something.

[Mina]

I did not think, that Ximax would need a regulation, for me it is high above any other school, more like an elite school, its standards higher than any other school anyway. Thalambath might be a different problem, having a different magic. But I assume now, that most other 'normal' magic is Ximax magic.

Well, I think most 'scholarly' magic in southern Sarvonia is based on more or less the same principles as Ximaxian magic, and could probably be considered sort of variations on the same system.  Ximax, well, as you say, its standards are probably already the highest amongst the schools.  However, it doesn't really make sense to exempt a school just because it is already doing well now.  What if, in the future, its standards drops below the minimum set by the regulations?  I think it would be more reasonable to say that Ximax is covered by the regulations as well, but isn't really affected by them because it already exceeds those standards, unlike the less competent schools and instructors that the regulations were meant to target. 

The guild is born with out of opposition. There the people gather to rail against the order, they are in a kind of grey area. Santharia is huge and the Order far away where the guild has its followers. Or nearby, depends on the circumstances. Could well be, that the order will not like (or even try to ban the one to one teaching). I just wanted to add some colour to the magic landscape. No plans yet, was to worn out to have more for the Lysarian entry, but I might come up with something.

Hmm, could be interesting.  The centralised regulation of magic teaching can't last forever, probably until shortly after the end of the Golden Age of Kings at most, I would guess.  This could be the setup for later events that could weaken or even break up the Order.  However, maybe the parts about it getting a more serious character and attracting the attention of the Order could be moved to a later date, so they remain relatively unimportant for their first few decades?  Might be better that way if you don't want anything serious happening between them and the Order during Lysarian's reign. 

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Agreed, will take it out!

Don't know right now if I excluded Ximax, will mend that also.

I'm not sure if the order will fall apart after the Golden Age. It stands on its own and is not dependant on the Santhran. The great time of the (religious) orders will come after the interregnum.
Well, let's see what happens when the next part is written

[Mina]

I'm not sure if the order will fall apart after the Golden Age. It stands on its own and is not dependant on the Santhran. The great time of the (religious) orders will come after the interregnum.

That's true.  But didn't the kingdom itself more or less fall apart some time after the Golden Age of Kings, with most regions becoming independent?  Maybe I got the dates wrong, but when this happens I think the Order will probably lose a lot of influence even if it doesn't break up completely.  I guess we'll see when we get around to doing that period of history. 

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Yes, let's the fate of the Order postpone

Art, should we mention the time somebody was Santhran in the heading or his birth/death dates? It's up to you, I put in all two.

[Artimidor Federkiel]

Mentioning the dates when they were Santhran in the header isn't necessary in the time table, that's consistent with the other time tables we have so far, nevertheless have a look e.g. at the King Thar entry. Here you find the Overview part of the main entry on top, where his life's dates are mentioned right away. It wouldn't hurt if we'd put the dates when he reigns easily recognizable into that Overview as well, then all those questions are answered immediately.

Note as well that we need a few lines for the Santharian Royal Line to complete the whole affair.

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Oh yes, thanks, I'll add that tomorrow. And rearrange some stuff.

I have nothing extraordinary in it, no draught, skirmish, some orcs coming down from the Tandalas. No revolt of a town against the new measurements. But that could be added later also, with a reaction of the Santhran. By now I'm glad I'm done soon

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

First post edited!

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Art, would you please replace the Fymbel part with the paragraph below, which I adapted from the PE

280 : 200 year Anniversary of the Fymbel Association

Santhran Lysarian's last ,official‘ appearance is on the occasion of the 200 years anniversary of the 'Fymbels', an all-female craft association.
Lysarian has always admired the work of that small guild of stonemasons, especially as they were all women. He is so taken by the idea of female 'craftswomen' that he wishes to sponsor them. As the women in question are mainly of low social rank, this is not an easy task. Finally he donates them a guild house in Santhala and is determined to say a few words at the opening ceremony. It is out of question to appear there as the former Santhran, so he visits the event incognito, disguised as lower ranked noble, and holds a short encouraging speech.

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

That one is finished also, if you replace the fymbel-part.

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Does this one work?

If I copy/paste it, all the colour and outlined passages are lost.

[Artimidor Federkiel]

Yes, this works - thanks! Colors and stuff shouldn't be a problem anyway, as I need to take care of formatting anyway for the history tables...

Let's see if I can still get it all in... 

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