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« on: 26 November 2003, 15:18:00 »

I am just wondering. In Character Descriptions area under Where To Begin? You speak of rewards and such. Grant it I could care less about receiving awards for my role playing, though along with everyone else I like to think Iím doing good, but there are those who would love this and I am thinking it might make people who leave early, stay, if thatís even a concern. I do have some ideas here, donít know if they are all that practical but hey not like you can take me out back an beat me upÖ I hope. Keep in mind these are just base ideas and not meant to be the law as written.

The first one, after every story/quest has finished the Mod of the story would give a sort of grade to each role player, grading the players role playing ability. Then if the character wishes he can take his character to the character creation area or another area to be said by the great all mighty creators, and add to his character. Not only history or personality but strengths, weaknesses, age and such. Maybe the character could only add things to strengths and all that, which he actually did in the story, meaning if he fought then he can say he got better at fighting. Donít know how well that would work with it not being stats, but this is pretty much based off trying to gain the players who like leveling along with character development. Some of this I believe is already being done, like the adding to history, not sure though, but was trying to think of a way to reward role playing like a pro.

Another is to be granted a spot in the history of Santharia itís self. When a character has grown so much it can get tiring to play the character or maybe the person is just tired of playing the same character for ever. I think it might be a nice incentive to play a character out if your character is going to be placed in the History or hall of fame or something of the sort, for all else to see, giving that player full bragging rights. Of course this would not be for everyone but just a idea to keep those that it would be for, I would think though that the character would have to die and also do something worth of it. It would be an easy way to create a hero for the history, with REAL role playing back ground. Once again just another idea that may not work.

Another thing is maybe every so often, 3 months or moth whatever, have a Role-player of the month, or character of the month or both. Every month have people nominate newly created characters and everyone votes on which one is the most creative and interesting player for that month and they get a spot somewhere that all can see, maybe a hall of creative characters, where they once again get bragging rights. Also you can every 3 months or so have characters nominated for who has the most role playing skill or something of the sort, and for that one you get a place in a hall somewhere for bragging rights plus your character is granted some sort of gift, depending on the character, just something powerful, useful and unique. Once again both of those are to inspire creativity and uniqueness. With this one there are so many things you could do also. The most unique character, the most troublesome character, the most annoying character, the most evil character and the mostÖ good character. Couldnít think of how to say that last one.

Ok ok be for you start to throw stuff and boo me off stage. Please allow me to say one thing, these are my thought and if you donít like them! *Pex Turns around bends over and shows the crowd his bare bottom*

Hehe. No seriously these are just ideas of mine, donít have to like emí but if you donít please say so, I would like to know.

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« Reply #1 on: 26 November 2003, 22:02:00 »

You have presented some good ideas here! However, we might need a bit of focus.

You see, the RPG board has just recently done a re-launch, and things are still being pieced together and figured out. We don't even have a set of clear rules approved yet! There is a lot of other things on the list that need to be worked on before we even get to rewards, so you may need to be patient.

Originally, the idea of awards sprang from this idea that people who put more into their character descriptions should be rewarded. Someone who wrote a character description that went above and beyond what was required, for example, would get more credit and more praise by being given an award. However, this was met with opposition, because many feared it would cause prejudice.

You have some great ideas. However, I don't think giving grades to role-players after a quest or story is done would be one of the better ones. Not only would this put a lot of pressure on the person moderating, but for those who receive low grades, it would be met with a lot of disappoint. I don't think anyone should be subject to humiliation of that kind. Also, I don't think that there has been a quest /RPG yet that has ever really "ended." These stories tend to go on until they die from lack of members or inactivity, so that might not be a good option.

Yes, people are already allowed to make changes to their character description after or even during a story, but you still have to make sure that you character is balanced. We sometimes allow those who have more knowledge of the world to wield more power. For example, my character is a level 9 Wind mage (hopefully soon to be an XeuŠ Mage), but the limit on levels is 6. I have, however, numerous spells and entries demonstrating my knowledge on the subject, and thus I'm allowed a higher level. We are more lenient into giving powers to those who have done a lot of research on the world. We try to make sure things are pretty equal, though, and that no one has powers that could be considered "Godly."

As for incorporating characters into the site itself, it is possible. Anyone can make their character part of the "PeopleĒ section of Santharia. However, the stories and quests that take place on the RPG board do not occur in the actual Santharian world. RPGs cannot become the history of Santharia because usually there are too many plot-holes and contradictions in the stories to allow them to become part of the site. If you want to make your character a person who made some contribution to Santharia, you can, but you best do your research!

I do like your idea about maybe giving monthly awards. However, the only problem with this is that there are so many stories and so many players. How does one prove that they are a good RPer? What does that encompass? Maybe you might be able to make up guidelines on what effective RPing is and send it to me? I do not think having a big, RPG Board-wide decision on who is the most annoying, evil, thoughtful, etc. RPer would be something we could do effectively, but it is something to look into.

As for granting useful or unique things, this would violate our desire for some equality among the RPers. The site is set up so that anyone who wants to can make an artifact, and if it doesn't give him or her more strength than they should have, their character may keep it. You don't even have to do an entry if you don't like! We have a lot of people with special things, like a charm that always has cool water, a staff that burns in blue fire, and other sorts of things. Such things don't have to be given out.

Iím concerned about the term ďbragging rights.Ē We want the RPG to be a fun place where people can come and have a good time. It should, by no means, be a place that people feel the need to compete. Keep this in mind, ok?

Thank you for your ideas.

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« Reply #2 on: 26 November 2003, 23:53:00 »

First sorry if my typing is off, I just spent 3 hours out in the cold talking to my beloved girlfriend on the phone and I didnít have the common sense to wear a jacket or anything. Itís got to be 30 degrees out side.

Ok well the group of ideas that you didnít like, are the ones that I had thought that would not be liked. Like I said they were based on bringing in those that enjoy the struggle to be better than others, something I could care less about. But like I also said I was not sure if bringing in those type of people was a concern or not.

I have to say I am glad that you liked the idea about the monthly awards, as that was one I would actually like to see happen, the others where more or less just thoughts. Though I liked the last one, but you make a very valid point there, but anyhow back on subject. Ok on this my idea was simply this. Every month at a certain time you would nominate x number of people and then those people would, for a lack of better words, run for that position. Like for instance if it was the one for the best Role Player, then they simply point out what they believe to be the best Role Playing the have done and then everyone votes on it, simply done with a poll, like in the development forums. That would work, I believe, with anything, even with the most annoying and even and so on.

ďHow does one prove that they are a good RPer? What does that encompass?Ē Well lets see. I never really thought of it, like I said they were just thoughts I had because of what I ran across on the rewards. Though you asked me so Iíll try and come up with something. How to prove it? Well I guess what one would do to prove he was the best Role player, out of the selected, is one of two things: Either post past role playing entries showing their role playing abilities or they would be given a situation and told to role play that situation to the best of their ability. Either way how I see it, it would be best left up to the masses. Like I said I never put much thought in how, just the base of the idea.

As for the granting useful or unique items, yea youíre right, I see what you mean.

Now this is the part I hate. As for being concerned about the term bragging rights, I just got to say, just because one brags does not mean that it should take the fun away from anything. People competing is what makes things get better. I compete with my self and every one on this board when I made my character. Grant it I may not have done a great job, in my opinion, compared to everyone else on making my character, but I assure you I get better ever time. Why? I believe itís because I strive to make a more interesting character and more creative character than everyone else. I think a little competition is always a good thing, as long as not taking it to far. For this site where competition well go to far is if it becomes over something other than creativity and uniqueness. Just my opinion though.

And now that I got the chance, I have to say that Rayne, I love how you do things on this site. To me, you seem to be more interested in helping others and the site, then just saying itís wrong. If I made any sense. I was on this site long ago, long long long ago. I left the site due to real life issues, health problems with my girl, but the reason I am just now coming back was because of how people acted when I left, the didnít seem to want to help anyone and I have to say I am quite refreshed to see someone like you who appears to want to help others and the site. Yea and I am a little ashamed at how I left, leaving a lot behind with out even a word, just didnít have a choice.. but thatís a different subject. Just wanted to say keep it up, its people like you who keep sites together. Its just a shame you cant be on here 24/7.

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« Reply #3 on: 27 November 2003, 05:33:00 »

Rayne said all what is to say already, very well as every time. There is just one thing I have to add.
The lack of commenting people which are fit in Santharian things to be able to judge how good a char is fitting into Santharia - and that should be a main factor - will not allow to do these things soon. It would take an enormous amount to compare CD only to do justice to all competing, not to speak of role-playing abilities.
To judging in-story-RP:
How would you judge a char, only by its eloquence? Could not somebody who lacks a good English be a good roleplayer also - because there are a lot of people in RLwho are not able to express themselves well, and they could add a touch to the story as well. Again:Who is the one to decide?
Every award leaves others backwho haven't got one.I don't need this here as long as we are short on time and competent people.

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« Reply #4 on: 27 November 2003, 15:27:00 »

It's good to hear some fresh ideas, Pax. Right at the moment, however, there's a very stressful time at the RPG Board. We have more or less completely overhauled the RPG Board already (still some more things to do), but the storm of new characters already during the process of the board re-design (prior to our planned promotion) surprised us all. That's the reason why the award system hasn't been integrated yet at all, because we're drowning in Character Descriptions. So we first need to solve the basic problems we have before we can move on to further improvements.

The idea of getting some sort of "character statistics" (at least some visible sign of showing a character's experience) is very interesting though - as Rayne mentioned with her mage example. It might be something e.g. we could use to make it possible for elemental mages to finally become XeuŠ mages due to their "objective" experience. But these things would need to be discussed in detail on how this could be handled perhaps. Till then we need to expand our staff on regular Character Description commenters and find ways that things work in this area and don't need the "Admins" help.


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« Reply #5 on: 27 November 2003, 19:17:00 »

As Artimidor said, it may take a while to get to the awards. Currently I have about 6 other things above that which need to be discussed by the administrators, including CCMods and Mini-mods and defining rules and the duties of each position. However, it is on my list! Eventually, when things settle down and get more straightened out, we will get too it, and I will present your ideas to the RPG Administrators.

If you'd like to discuss it more, feel free to contact me, either by IM or through e-mail. My contact information is on the site as well as on my ezboard profile. Thanks for sharing your opinions. Maybe you can help us to create some worthy awards!

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