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« on: 09 September 2001, 14:56:00 »

The Kuglimz Beliefs

Myth of Creation: There was simply light, and the beings that lived in that light, the Rouk’oriot (light people).  They reveled and relished the brilliance of their surroundings.  Where these beings that were merely points of brilliance came from is not known.  Different tribes hold varying views.  Some say that a long dead God created them; still others argue that they were the first beings.  Whatever the truth, they were there when the first of the darkness came.

The un-named darkness appeared in the midst of the Rouk’oriot, where and why it came was a mystery.  It quickly spread as they fled out of fear of this entity that seemed to devour the light and it was also found that they vanished whenever one of them was engulfed by the dark.  Soon enough the darkness had spread across vast amounts of their home.  In their desperation the Rouk’oriot did something that they had never conceived of before.  They imagined safe points to stay.  With the incredible change of this imagining some of the Rouk’oriot were lost to the effort; but with the efforts of those who were not destroyed, the first likeness of material appeared.  The beginnings of such an immense change created tremendous upheavals in their surroundings.  Great points of light were formed that grew into the shinning shapes of massive spheres.  These were the Wuk’oriot (light circle).  The Rouk’oriot found that they now also had a semblance of shape and the design of the sphere allowed as many of the Rouk’oriot to flow into their strongholds as possible.

For a time they simple stayed in their fortress’ while their once bright home was devoured, until all that remained were these strongholds of light against the black background.  The Rouk’oriot hoped that the void would be happy with the taking of their home, but it seemed ever hungry and next it went after them.  One by one the Wuk’oriot were extinguished and became barren spheres of matter.  All those that had once harbored within its safety were destroyed, and the pieces of their semi-formed shapes fell onto the barren worlds.  This continued until one of the Rouk’oriot finally had another flash of imagination.  It would stand and try to push back the darkness.  Its name was Minarot.  Minarot gathered others around him and readied and assault on the void.  Streaks of light raced from one of the Wuk’oriot and pierced the darkness, finally coming across one of the barren spheres.  It is there that a great battle raged, not one of swords and armies, rather of spirits and will.  The great void was simply too much and destroyed Minarot, but his light fell on the sphere, and so powerful was his desire that the essence of himself still shone, though his form was obliterated.  

A brave companion of Minarot, Sur’tyan, took the lead of what remained of the Rouk’oriot forces and beat the darkness away for a small distance.  During a respite from the conflict, Leir’tyan gathered the essence of Minarot.  Most of it she took to the center of the desolate sphere to hide from the darkness, the rest she saved for remembrance.  Unbeknownst to her, Minarot’s light heated the cold world and caused a chain of reactions to occur.  Light erupted in the form of flames, and gave light to the essence of other fallen comrades.  This began a cycle of birth and growth on the planet.  No longer was it cold and barren.  The sight of this renewed the Rouk’oriot and they determined to protect this place.  Soon, Leir’tyan begged of Sur’tyan to use the rest of Minarot’s essence to create a work that would bring back some of the light that they had so loved.  He took up the work and created the Ineiran.

General:  The Kuglimz worship two main Gods, Sur’tyan and Leir’tyan.  As such, there is a priesthood devoted to Leir'tyan.  They do not have a set grounds or temple, but rather journey in groups and use nature as their shrines.  The priests of Sur'tyan however have a temple in each city and village, to make sure that all respect is given to their astral Father.  

Each tribe also has their separate God, which they worship in addition to their main deities.  They are known as the Vir’togz (Great Ones); they sprang from the blood of Leir’tyan to lead the Kuglimz to safety and their present homes.  Each tribe has their seperate way of worshiping as each diety is different from another.  Most include a shrine, and a priest.  The shrine that is built cannot ever be large than the one to Sur'tyan though.  

The Kuglimz have two main feasts during the year.  The first is the Taug’rik’tyan, which is dedicated to Leir’tyan and the Vir’togz.  This takes place in the spring, and marks the beginning of birth.  The other is the Taug’alth’ho; it is in remembrance of their long ago flight from their ancient home, and the promise of return and is observed at the end of summer.

They call the world that they live in Minarot in, as they view it as the creation of his body.  The stars are seen as the distant Wuk’oriots of other Rouk’oriot.  A shooting star is considered a sign of good fortune, and a propitious time to began a battle.  As, it is when Rouk’oriots sally from their fortresses and battle the void.

I have based this breakdown on Koldar's Arca-Santarra.  Art's been saying that I needed some on just their religion.  Well this is what I have so far.  Any critiques are welcome.  And all grammar and such too Winlock :lol  

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« Reply #1 on: 10 September 2001, 17:41:00 »

Intersting :)  just a question or two - so the darkness doens't have a name or form? It seems that the dark and light at in conflict, but the light has a name, whereas the darkness doens't. And you didn't mention when Taug’alth’ho is held.

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« Reply #2 on: 11 September 2001, 11:09:00 »



The Kuglimz Beliefs
You have simply put, some words in the wrong place. Whenever I write something out, at first glance it looks so well and meaningful. Then I print it out. Posting it, writing it down, and printing it out are very different things. Posting it and writing it down you don't see the errors, but with printing it out. You see what everyone else sees, and suddenly things become alot clearer. All and all, I like your imagination very much.
Myth of Creation:
In a time beyond imagination, and are the creation of Sorren, there was naught but the brilliance of possibility. There was no concept of that which is called material for nothing of true substance had come to be made yet.
Myth of Creation: Is in a time beyond imagination, and is the creation of Sorren. There was naught but the brilliance of possibility, nor any concept of that which is called material, for nothing of true substance had come to be made yet. Here you are narrating, not telling a story. If that was your intention, then make the rest of this essay, conform to a narration and use the singular is, not are. BTW: then it would be okay to use one sentence and not merge it with the other.The Myth of Creation, is a time beyond imagination, and is the creation of Sorren, there was naught but the brilliance of possibility. There was no concept of that which is called material for nothing of true substance had come to be made yet.


There was simply light, and the beings that lived in that light, the Rouk’oriot (light people).

They reveled and relished the brilliance of their surroundings/

Where these beings that were merely points of brilliance came from is not known.


Different tribes hold varying views.

Some say that a long dead God created them, still others argue that they were the first beings.

Whatever the truth, they were there when the first of the darkness came.

The darkness appeared in the midst of the Rouk’oriot, it quickly spread as they fled out of fear of this entity that seemed to devour the light and it was also found that they vanished whenever one of them was engulfed by the dark.

Soon enough the darkness had spread across vast amounts of their home.

In their desperation, the Rouk’oriot did something that they had never conceived of before.

They imagined, safe points to stay.

With the incredible change of this imagining, some of the Rouk’oriot were lost to the effort, but with the efforts of those who were not destroyed, the first likeness of material appeared.


The beginnings of such an immense change, created tremendous upheavals in their surroundings.

Great points of light shinning in the form of massive spheres were formed, Wuk’oriot.

The Rouk’oriot found that they now also had a semblance of shape, and the design of the sphere, allowed as many of the Rouk’oriot to flow into their strongholds as possible.

For a time they simple stayed in their fortress’, while their once bright home was devoured, until all that remained were these strongholds of light against the black background.

The Rouk’oriot hoped that the void would be happy with the taking of their home, but it seemed ever hungry and next it went after them.

One by one the Wuk’oriot were extinguished, and became barren spheres of matter.

All those that had once harbored within its safety were destroyed, and the pieces of their semi-formed shapes fell onto the barren worlds.

This continued, until one of the Rouk’oriot finally had another flash of imagination.

It would stand and try to push back the darkness. Its name was Minarot.

Minarot gathered others around him, and readied an assault on the void.

Streaks of light raced from one of the Wuk’oriot and pierced the darkness, finally coming across one of the barren spheres.

It is there that a great battle raged, not one of swords and armies, rather of spirits and will.

The great void was simply too much and destroyed Minarot, but his light fell on the sphere and so powerful was his desire, that the essence of himself still shone, though his form was obliterated.

A brave companion of Minarot, Sur’tyan, took the lead of what remained of the Rouk’oriot forces and beat the darkness away for a small distance.

During a respite from the conflict, Leir’tyan gathered the essence of Minarot.

I split this up, it sounded ackward, but basically there is nothing wrong with it. If you preferr it like it was, by all means turn it backMost of it she took to the center of the desolate sphere, to hide from the darkness.  The rest she saved, for remembrance.

Unbeknownst to her, Minarot’s light heated the cold world and caused a chain of reactions to occur.

Light erupted in the form of flames, and gave light to the essence of other fallen comrades.

This began a cycle of birth and growth on the planet. No longer was it cold and barren.

The sight of this renewed the Rouk’oriot, and they determined to protect this place.

Soon, Leir’tyan begged of Sur’tyan to use the rest of Minarot’s essence to create a work that would bring back some of the light that they had so loved. He took up the work, and created the Ineiran.

General: The Kuglimz worship two main Gods, Sur’tyan and Leir’tyan. As such, there is a priesthood devoted to Leir'tyan.

They do not have a set grounds or temple, but rather journey in groups and use nature as their shrines.

The priests of Sur'tyan however have a temple in each city and village, to make sure that all respect is given to their astral Father.

Each tribe also has their separate God, which they worship in addition to their main deities.

They are known as the Vir’togz (Great Ones), they sprang from the blood of Leir’tyan to lead the Kuglimz to safety and their present homes.

Each tribe has their seperate way of worshiping, as each diety is different from another.

Most include a shrine, and a priest.

The shrine that is built, cannot ever be larger than the one to Sur'tyan though.

The Kuglimz have two main feasts, during the year.

The first is the Taug’rik’tyan, which is dedicated to Leir’tyan and the Vir’togz.

This takes place in the spring, and marks the beginning of birth.

The other is the Taug’alth’ho; it is in remembrance of their long ago flight from their ancient home, and the promise of return.

They call the world that they live in Minarot in, as they view it as the creation of his body.

The stars are seen, as the distant Wuk’oriots, of other Rouk’oriot.

A shooting star is considered a sign of good fortune, and a propitious time to began a battle.

As, it is when Rouk’oriots sally from their fortresses and battle the void.

Do you mean the great points of light were called Wuk'oriot Great points of light shinning in the form of massive spheres were formed, Wuk’oriot.


The Wuk'oriot is not explained.  Is the Rouk'oriot a subclass of the Kuglinz tribe? The gods Leir'tyan, and Sur'tyan should be described first as in the general section. If you mention them before it will not only confuse but befuddle the reader when they read it. Their first thought will be...who are these people? Further description of Ineiran would be helpful? No date is given for the holding of the festival Taug'alth'ho. Is Minarot a god too? Finally, (I bet your happy now HA!) I would explain all these things first and, have your general section come first.

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« Reply #3 on: 11 September 2001, 11:49:00 »

The Wuk'oriot are the spheres that the Rouk'oriot created, these would later be known as the stars.  The Rouk'oriot are the beings of light that live in the sky.  I put the general after, because that was how Koldar did his.  Also from reading the myth I thought people would understand what the Rouk'oriot and the Wuk'oriot were.  Obviously not though, so I must do some work here.  Not mentioning a time for the Taug'alth'ho was an oversite.  That will be fixed.

Can't a narration flow into a story?  If not that's fine, I was simply under a different impression.

Thanx for the criticisms Winlock and Elienta, much appreciated.

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« Reply #4 on: 11 September 2001, 14:41:00 »

I gathered that the Wuk'oriot were great points of light that later became stars, but I wrote down when you first mentioned them. Because it's rather assuming, when you say " Great points of light shinning in the form of massive spheres were formed, Wuk’oriot." . Do you notice a discernable drop off in this line "Great points of light shining in the form of massive spheres were formed...then you stop....there is a comma...and then the word Wuk'oriot.

I read the myth before, and you have established the existence of the Rouk'oriot (light people), so I never said anything, but haven't defined Wuk'oriot well enough.

If Koldar puts his general after, then I'm not one to argue. :lol  

A narration can flow into a story, but it is very difficult to do. It is much easier to read if the whole thing is a narration, or the whole thing is a story.

Just (MHO)

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« Reply #5 on: 11 September 2001, 15:22:00 »

Allright, thx once again Winlock.  Btw, did you know that you're my favortie editor here.  Just overlook the fact that you're the only one. hehe

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« Reply #6 on: 11 September 2001, 22:01:00 »

:lol  :lol  :lol  

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« Reply #7 on: 13 September 2001, 12:18:00 »

Question: From where did the darkness come from? Was there any initiator behind it? Or was it simply there and nobody knows exactly why. Yup, and perhaps the darkness has a name. Or it hasn't, then it would be some sort of unnameable something, probably as part of the religion.

Story/narration/myth: I propose to write a summary of the the myth for the Compendium, then we can move the whole myth to the Library. There all longer pieces will be put. But I guess people who look up something in the library would appreciate a summary more. Will try to discern in the future between lengthy entries and Compendium entries. See e.g. Curgan entry. This is definitely more a historical narration than a Compendium entry. The Compendium should give compact information.

Ok, Drogo - I propose to work in the suggestions/questions posted here (clarify some things here and there, perhaps elaborating every now and then a bit more in the mythical direction), then it would be ready for the site as a library addition and a Compendium entry.

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« Reply #8 on: 13 September 2001, 17:38:00 »

Points and globes aren't exactly the same thing, Drogo. No such thing as a large point. Doesn't work. Please come up with better words to satisfy my nitpicking talent.

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« Reply #9 on: 13 September 2001, 17:59:00 »

Will be done, nitpicking is what makes things better.

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« Reply #10 on: 15 September 2001, 11:00:00 »

The Kuglimz Beliefs

Deity System: There are a total of 12 deities in the Kuglimz pantheon.  Only two of them are truly considered Gods.  These two Gods are Leir’tyan (all mother) and Sur’tyan (all father).  As the translations of their names indicate, the Kuglimz see them as the head of the Gods and are worshipped by all of the tribes.  Leir’tyan tends to be looked on as a God that one can become personal with, as this befits her loving attitude towards her people.  While Sur’tyan is the protector of the Kuglimz, and the religious view of worship with him is one of awe and respectful distance.  The other ten deities are named the Vir’togz (great ones), they actually sprang forth from the drops of blood shed by Leir’tyan.  Each Vir’tog is the god of a separate tribe, as each one of the Vir’tog lead it’s own people to the area where they now live.

Temples/Worship: Every Kuglimz settlement whether they be Kuglimz’torik or the Kuglimz’ura has both a shrine to Sur’tyan and their clan’s Vir’tog.  The temple of Sur’tyan must be the largest holy structure, befitting his status as Father figure.  Most of his temples are made of stone among the centralized tribes, and among the nomadic, they are hide and Ulgaroth bone constructs.  No matter which tribe, the detailing that goes into the structures is incredible.  Stones carved with intricate mazes and religious depictions, or minute etchings in bone and designs made by sewing small bones into shapes upon the outside of the hide.  The shrines of the Vir’togz are usually simplistic by comparison.  Overall, they are much smaller in size and less ornate.  One outstanding feature though is that in front of each temple is a gold, gold plated for poorer villages or Zeiz, replica of the item that Sur’tyan gave to their clan’s Vir’tog.  
In both of these cases holy men watch after the temples and shrines and perform rites and sacrifices to appease the higher powers.  Once again, it is forbidden for a holy place of a Vir’tog to have a better sacrifice than the temple of Sur’tyan.  People bring gifts of food and items to appease the deities.  

The worship of Leir’tyan is gone about in a much different way.  Firstly, all those that serve here are women.  There have been rare occasions though when a man has been taken in, when it seems she has called him to her.  There is no actual shrine or temple to Leir’tyan, at least not a permanent one.  Her priestesses travel the land with earth-toned tents decorated with dried Rik’tyan blooms.  These tents make their way in silent processions to all of the people, from single herdsmen to the greatest of Lu’s.  In this way does Leir’tyan keep the knowledge of her love for her children alive.  The only sacrifices that Leir’tyan asks is some food and cloth, so that here priestesses have be fed and clothed.

Ritual Feasts: There are two ritual feasts that take place during the year.  The first is Taug’rik’tyan (feast of the all flower), which takes place during the beginning of spring and the blooming of the Rik’tyan.  This feast is in celebration of the coming of the Vir’togz to lead the Kuglimz to safety, and to honor Leir’tyan’s shedding of blood for their creation.  The feast lasts ten days, each day given in honor to one of the Vir’togz.  The other feast is Taug’alth’ho (feast of the animal grass), it takes place at the end of summer.  It is a more solemn affair, as it is one of remembrance of the flight from their lost homeland.  Among the Kuglimz’torik circles of woven alth’ho or bonfires of piles of dried alth’ho are set on fire and burned.  The Kuglimz’ura however, take this more seriously.  They set the very plains on fire and flames can be see raging across the horizon for nights.  After this burning the soil is revitalized and awaits the herds next year.  Thus, Taug’alth’ho is in mourning for what was lost, but finding joy in re-birth.

         
Myth of Creation: There was simply light and nothing else.  In this light lived the Rouk’oriot (light people).  That is all that there was, until the coming of the un-named darkness.  It spread like a plague, devouring the light and replacing it with a void.  Not only did it consume the light, but it destroyed the Rouk’oriot as well.  Eventually in their fear and desperation the Rouk’oriot did an unknown thing, they imagined.  This unfortunately struck down many of them, for it was simply too much of a change to bear.  The use of imagination brought many changes with it.  First was the creation of the Wuk’oriot (light globe), the safety they had first imagined.  Another was that now, they had substance to their being.  After watching the engulfing darkness snuff out the light of one Wuk’oriot after another one of the Rouk’oriot had another flash of imagination.  It would fight back against the darkness, so with a group of his brethren Minarot streamed from his fortress and deep into the night.  Eventually he came to an extinguished Wuk’oriot, and there was slain by the darkness.  Sur’tyan his friend took charge of the forces, and Leir’tyan took the essence of Minarot and hid it deep within the cold world.  This essence began a chain reaction that brought about light and life to the world.

Afterlife: The Kuglimz believe that when they die, they shall join their Gods.  No longer will they have but bodies of light, and they will link with the Rouk’oriot to combat the darkness.  This is a pleasure that every Kuglimz looks forward too.  That is why death is not much of a burden to their minds.  They also believe that occasionally a person will be reborn.  That person will be one who is instrumental to them, and only allowed back by the will of both Sur’tyan and Leir’tyan.    

General:  They do not see Minarot as a God, as he was vanquished and lost his place among this fellow Wuk’oriot, however they call Sorren Minarot as it is seen as the creation of his body.  The stars are viewed as the distant Wuk’oriots of other Rouk’oriot who have not reached the stage of consciousness that their Gods have.  A shooting star is considered a sign of good fortune, and a propitious time to began a battle.  As, it is when the Rouk’oriots sally from their fortresses and do battle with the void.

Let me know what you think once more.    

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« Reply #11 on: 16 September 2001, 12:08:00 »

Don't understand this sentence, especially the "gold"-part, Drogo:

"One outstanding feature though is that in front of each temple is a gold, gold plated for poorer villages or Zeiz, replica of the item that Sur’tyan gave to their clan’s Vir’tog."

BTW: You also always use the word "Leir'tyan", while you initially called her "Lier'tyan"!

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