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« on: 18 August 2003, 20:46:00 »

Ok, I haven't hardly touched anything below Origin, but most everything above it is new. I'm not yet done, as I'm still browsing over the information in my Lord of the Ring book, and using what I vaguely recall from "There and Back Again." Still, I'd really like to get suggestions on things to add..!




Halflings is the general expression used to refer to a race of short people that commonly live in settlements known as "shires." Some have given halflings other names as well. Centoraurians, for example, commonly call them the Holbytlan. Others merely call them the "small folk." However, though halfling is the most common expression, the race much prefers to be called "Hobbits" (Green-people). Hobbits are not commonly known among the major races of Caelereth, because they are considered to be a minor race, as they are not influential politically. They do not often leave their shires, and some even believe this race to be mere myth, living only in songs and tales. Hobbits are very much alive, though, and have a bright and rich culture.

Appearance. Hobbits are not called "small folk" and "halfings" for nothing. They are indeed rather short, tending to grow only about a ped in height, being shorter than dwarves and far less stocky and stout. Their weight often ranges between 5 to 6 hebs, as they are "inclined to be a bit fat in the belly." Most Hobbits begin gaining their big bellies once they've passed the age of thirty-three. A large belly is not believed to detract from one's attractiveness, though. Female hobbits tend to have an ample chest accompanying their large bellies. The body structure of the hobbit allows for them to easily carry the weight, being big boned. They also have larger feet and hands, often making them appear disproportional to outsiders, and at the same time giving them a rather charming appearance.

Hobbits almost always have curly hair, both on the top of their heads and on their feet. Their foot-hair is coarser than their head-hair and allows them to walk comfortably without shoes. The hair atop their heads tends to be far softer, and varies, commonly, from shades of brown, both dark and light, to red to even blond. Few hobbits have black hair, though time may turn an old hobbit's hair to gray or white. Eye color may range anywhere from brown to hazel to blue and green. The eyes of hobbits are known for being full of mirth and laughter. The lips of the hobbit are almost always turned in a smile, being often very good-natured and hearty

Territory. In the Santharian Kingdom there exist 3 main Hobbit shires with no more than a few thousand members each. Every Shire is maintained and runned by a so-called Thain, which can be compared to a mayor in the human towns and villages. The office of the Thain is inherited from father to son. The Santharian Shires are as follows:

• The Helmondsshire (located south of the Silvermarshes, north east of the Thaelon)
• The Shire of Elenveran (south of New-Santhala at the Elverground)
• The Dogodan Shire clan (at the so-called Acornland, at the Alianian Hills, south east of the Ancythrian Sea).

Mode of Living/Habits. Hobbits are known for being fairly unobtrusive and fond of nature, peace, and quiet. They tend to be, not necessarily laid-back, but not hasty. They do not hurry unnecessarily and take time to get from one place to another, or to complete a project, believing that "good things come in time." They are often self-content and unassuming, especially when it comes to the things happening in the world. Hobbits do not often meddle in the affairs of "big folk," and travel is not common accept through the shires in which they live.  Because of their neutrality during times of war, they were tolerated in the same manner as the Brownies, and were thus able avoid too much destruction and decimation during hard times. The first time hobbits actually engaged in a Sarvonian war was during SW III (298 b.S. - 203 b.S.) during which time the famous Hobbit Boe Starlinggale served as commander of the Halfing lancers in the Battle of Four Swords.

Hobbits tend to be able to look lightly on even the direst situations, and are indeed known for such behavior. They may face the most horrid experience, but are often able to recall the story without much trouble. As one scholar put it, “Some hobbits are able to sit on the edge of ruin, in the dying wake of destruction, and discuss the pleasure of cuisine, or the little doings of their father, grandfather, great-grandfathers, or cousins to the eighth degree, if you encourage them with undue patience.”

Hobbits tend to make their homes in holes dug into the hills. These holes are often very large and extremely extensive, as they tend to accommodate very large families. Often times grandparents, parents, and children will all live together in one hobbit hole. Some times many family clans live in an elaborate system of underground tunnels connecting one hole to another, and mere holes become more like one big mansion. Such hobbit holes are called smials. The windows and doors of hobbit holes are almost always round, and large enough to fit the small hobbit nicely, though "big folk," like elves and men, may have trouble maneuvering through hobbit holes. Many important hobbit holes, such as those used for grand meetings or festive celebrations, are adorned with an a rune of hospitality, shape like a half circle that surrounds a center fleck on all sides save the bottom left corner, and also one that shows loyalty to the Kingdom of Santharia.

It is said that long ago hobbits used to live above the ground in structures with thatches roofs and bulging walls, but such homes are no longer used

Family, Society and Culture. Many Hobbits are very fond of music and poetry. This race of "small folk" is known for writing poetry and composing songs through which they maintain a rich oral tradition. Grand tales of mythological adventure, pieces of ancient hobbit history, and lore are all written about and sung and read, though the truths and myths have since been forgotten and none know what tales are based on actual occurrences and which merely sprung out of fantasy. One thing is fairly certain though: long ago there were far more hobbits about, and they were more adventurous than they are in modern times. It is believed they left Sarvonia long ago in search of danger and treasure, but of these tribes, almost nothing is known save what is sung about in ancient song.

One such song follows the fate of Nefrast the Curious, who is said to have moved too close to the burning Injčrá so that he died painfully in his expedition to the south. "So close as Nefrast to the sun" is still a much-used halfling idiom to warn from perceptions that seem to be too easy to achieve.

Most of the poetry and songs of the Hobbits is more geered toward happy adventure and merry times, while often elven peotry is more religeous or deeply spiritual and philosophical. Hobbits are more inclined to compose works that follow a merry little adventure, sometimes being humorous or else just being mirthful in nature. Sometimes Hobbits will take stories that would originally be considered rather sad and disappointing, such as Nafrast's story, and turn them into comedic tales that are bound to get a few laughs.

Food is also a very important part of the lives of Hobbits. They haven't gained their famous bellies by merely singing and dancing all day, after all! Cooking and meal-times have become an extremely important part of the culture, such to the point that most hobbits learn to cook before they even learn their letters. It is said that the best cooks are hobbits, but also that hobbits are the best eaters. They commonly eat at least five meals a day. Pipeweed has also been known to be a rather large part of the history, and is an invention of hobbits that they are indeed quite proud of.

Family and ancestry has always been an important part of Hobbit culture, and most hobbits find the topic of genetics and ancestry absolutely fascinating, and something they are indeed quite proud of. They enjoy, especially, telling others of their family history, putting the links of genetics and marriage together to date their bloodline back to the first hobbit to ever come up with pipeweed or the hobbit Dalireen, who is said to have become a deity after Nehtor heard her song. Family gatherings are both common and extensive! Often a single birthday party, given invitations are given to third cousins twice removed and second nieces and nephews, end up being a celebration in which everyone in the shire is invited to! Halflings can reach the age of 150 (though the average lifespan tends to be about 110) and a couple will commonly have at least four or five little hobbit children, so birthday parties and celebrations are not uncommon.

If a birthday party is not coming, then usually a festival is on its way. Hobbits will always find some reason to gather together and celebrate, to dance and drink and smoke and laugh together late into the night. Even the smallest accomplishments of Hobbits are remembered with wonderful festivals, such as the festival occurring on the Day of Mondolfin, or the "Day when Mondolfin traveled to yonder mountain and returned safely." Some festivals have even lost their origin, though the moral and the reason for celebration, whether it be strength, courage, safety, or merely happiness and long life, are never lost. They love giving and receiving gifts: even the smallest token is gladly accepted by a hobbit and often kept stored away in a Hobbit hole.

Hobbits have several important birthdays in their life. Well, all birthdays are indeed quite important, but there are a few that are indeed a bit more important than the others. One of the most important of these is thrity-three, when a hobbit comes of age. A great celebration is usually accompanied with this age, when a hobbit first begins to go out on his or her own, and also begins to get their belly.

Fifty five tend to also be a rather important number. Less important, of course, than the coming of age at thirty three, but still seemingly rather important, for reason still rather unknown. Most hobbits indeed have some magnificent story that explains the signifigence of the age, but there are none who remember it, if there ever was one. Most delight in it because it often marks the halfway point in a Hobbit's life.

A hobbit's Eleventy-first (111) birthday is indeed a great celebration, more a celebration of long-life more than anything, given the average lifespan of a hobbit is 110. However, most figure that the reason one's eleventy-first is so important is merely that the number is such a curious one! Three one's all in a row is mighty peculiar to hobbits.

Marriage is indeed a joyous celebration done after at least a few months of devoted courtship, during which the coupled hobbits will go through a number of platonic rituals including walking together and respectable dancing and singing. It is common for male hobbits to present their love-interest with flowers, as is common for female hobbits to present baked goods (such as cookies or pies) to hers and hers' family. Marriage proposals are given after several months, at least, of such things.

However, when marriage is proposed and invitations are sent, all family and friends (which, more often then not, includes the entire shire population) attend. Marriage almost always occurs in spring, and the bride will wear dresses of either white, pink, yellow, purple, or blue, with the bridegroom in, of course, his best shirt and vest. The rituals of marriage usually include the father of the bride giving his daughter to the bridegroom, and each hobbit reciting poetic promises to each other. After such ceremony, the new hobbits and all their company will gather together, usually outside, and have a grand feast accompanied by, of course, the best beer the shire has to offer.

Funerals are often a time of mourning and sadness, though hobbits try to make light of such things. Hobbits are often buried in the ground, along with some of their most important possessions. There is then much music and dancing where the life of the deceased is celebrating instead of their death. There  is often a great feast during which times random people may stand and say something about the hobbit who was buried, whether it be one of their good traits or a funny story or tale.

Diet. Hobbits will eat just about any edible thing that will grow around them. They are especially fond of vegetables, such as caroots and pease, which they will grow happily in their gardens. They also love lythbells and meldarapples, and are overall very fond of things that grow from the earth. Gardening is a very common hobbit pasttime and, sometimes, occupation. Hobbits do eat meat as well, such as that of cows and sheep that they have grazing in their pastures, as well as teanish that cluck about in their front yards. However, fresh fruits and vegetables are commonly their favorite.

Halflings also have a taste for beer, and will happily drink down glasses of it, which they often do at parties and celebrations. Many hobbits take great care in making beer, being sure to brew it so that it comes out just right, with the best flavor. Indeed, every bar and tavern is not always judged on how good the food is, how cute the waitresses are, or how quick the service is, but rather, how good the beer is that they serve.

Belief. The "small folk" of the shire believe, usually, in the same gods and goddesses as elves and men to some degree. Avá and the Aviaría are known throughout most shires, but worship and prayer is not a common behavior among hobbits, who would much rather celebrate gods and goddesses through song, dance, and beer, than through quiet and solemn prayer. Because of this, there aren't many shrines near or in shires. Religeon is not judged as something terribly important among these little folk.

Hobbits do have some of their own deities, though, who, though not commonly known among elves and men and the other races of Santharia, are much celebrated and loved among the halfing race. One such diety is Dalireen, who is believed to be the hobbit muse of song, dance, and innocence. She is commonly thought of in times when inspiration is greatly needed, and called to in song instead of silent prayer.

Origin. Of the cosmological origin of the halflings little is known. In the elven myth of the Cárpa'dosía it is told that the Rain of Life emerging from the Thoughts of Avá fell on the elements, thus generating the four main races, the elves, the dwarves, the orcs and the humans. The Hobbits aren't mentioned in the myth directly, but it is indicated that several different races came to life out of various combinations of the four elements: "One smaller being arose near a lake where the ground is hard and massive, though it bore the full strength of the nearby sá'már in it" (Cárpa'dosía IV, p. 16). According to this description it is supposed from elven interpreters that the Halflings are a cosmological combination of the elements of Water and Earth.

However, there is a much more amusing story on how hobbits came to life if we believe a narration of Gwerolin Shimms, a well-known story-teller at the village of Shingleswon in Helmondsshire, but although it has no scientific nor mythological base, it is still told with enthusiasm to the hobbit children. It goes like this (transcribed from the famous storyteller Master Tribell, listening to Gwerolins narration in front of several young halflings):

"Long, long ago, when the world was still young there were no hobbits at all. (Amazed cries from the audience). There were only the big folk, the pointed-eared, the snouted ones and a small folk as well. And this story goes about this small folk.

Nowadays, many of the small folk have almost disappeared from the surface of the world, digging deeper and deeper into their mountains. But in past times, the small folk used to live more on the surface of their mountains and some even lived in the valleys. They loved the mountains and the minerals they could find there, alas, in those times they hadn't learned how to grow food and keep animals in the dark caves yet. But because they didn't really want to trade with other races and prefered to keep to themselves, they also remained independent. Some of them decided to construct farms in the valleys and they became the food supply for those of the small folk who lived in the mountains. But while the normal these members of the small folk got more and more skilled in mining and metal working, the "outsiders" as the others were called, skilled themselves in farming, baking and brewing.

This continued for a several centuries, until one day on of the "diggers", Moruk, who would later be called "the Lightbringer", found the first "Solar Gem" or "Foiros Tear". Those gems were filled with the power of Foiros and shone with the same light as that of the Injčrá, thus enabling the diggers to create first underground farms.

Now that the diggers had their own farms inside the mountains, they didn't need the farms of the outsiders anymore and they started digging further and further into the mountains, searching for more treasure and wealth. At a  certain moment, they asked all their cousins to join them, but the outsiders refused. They had lost all interest in the dark mountains and they had begun to love the sun, the blue sky, the rivers and the green valleys and the fields.

And so it happened that the small folk divided itself in two groups. One, led by Moruk the Lightbringer, who dug further into the mountains and the other, led by Harfuld the Green, who founded the first Shire: Hobbitshire. (Hobbit meaning: (the) green-lovers and Shire meaning: (a) group of holes.) In later years, the hobbits as they now called themselves, founded even more shires, like Helmondsshire and Silvershire. The Hobbitshire was eventually destroyed during the Dragonstorm, but some other Shires survived the cataclysm.

In all the following years, the hobbits just lived on. Not very curious of the rest of the world and happy with their way of living. They made a few discoveries like pipeweed and butterbeer, but regarding the outer world hobbits haven't really come up with great things to remember. Well, who can expect great things from a small folk, eh? And so we still live quietly, forgotten by most of the world, which not necessarily is a bad thing..."

"And hopefully it will stay that way," would most Hobbits in the audience think. And they returned to their cosy holes to smoke a pipe and talk of their family trees while they didn't want to think much of their past and the turbulent times contained therein."


-- Master Tribell: "Different Stories. Why the World is not a Pie", p. 21 f.  

Important Characters. One of the most famous hobbit characters in Santharian History is Boe Starlinggale, who served as commander of the halfling lancers in the Battle of Four Swords (SW III), following the fallen Palvin Nhadle. Together with the elf Pherán'Epthaerín, Tevot Charnel of the men and the dwarf Gonthrum he left the Sarvonian continent fleeing from the orcs in order to establish a new realm harboring all four races at the isle of Denilou. Boe served as a valuable counselor of Pherán'Epthaerín representing the interests of the hobbits on the newly discovered island.

History.

AGE OF MYTHS

Unknown Date: The Founding of Hobbitshire
Hobbitshire, the first shire of the halfling race, is settled by Harfuld the Green in what is now known as the Silvermarshes. Harfuld becomes the first Thain of the shire, which is home to several thousand hobbits. It flourishes.

AGE OF AWAKENING

1650 b.S.: Dragonstorm
The dragons from the Tandalas lay siege to much of Vardýnn, including the Silver marshes and Hobbitshire. Countless innocent halflings die in the attack on their home, and their houses are laid to waste. Some of the of the survivors journey south, seeking refuge and peace. Those halflings eventually come to the Alenian Hills and, with the help of the Jhehellrhim elves, settles into what is know known as the Dogodan shire.

1649/1648 b.S.: The Vardýnn Atonement
The Hobbits remaining in Hobbitshire suffer a sunless year. Many die from the cold, though surplus from crops in the past years of hobbit shire provide most with enough food to last until the cold is over. Those who have no home or lack considerable in victuals journey south to where their fellow halflings have already settled. The Dogodan shire grows to a healthy population of a few thousand.

When the Atonement ends, the halflings living in the silvermarshes among the ruins of Hobbitshire. They immediately begin to rebuild and call rename the shire “New Hobbitshire.” They experience a time of great growth and healing, and their numbers rise.

AGE OF BLOOD

823 b.S.: Allied in the Ancyros War
The halflings of New Hobbitshire become mixed up in the Ancyros Civil war as an ally Erpheronian king Erdolomin against Caltharia. They are assigned to supplying the Erpheronians with food, clothing, and other such things. It is believed the alliance was forced upon the hobbits through threats.

822 b.S.: Massacre at New Hobbitshire
The victorious Erpheronians march through the halfling land of what is now known by humans as Silvershire (then known as New Hobbitshire) to resupply, but find a number of halflings treating the wounds of Caltharian soldiers. These halflings are believed to not have known anything about the alliance between Erpheronia and themselves.

The army considered this treachery and attacked the village where these halflings were treating the wounded enemy soldiers. Hundreds of halflings were murdered, their homes were destroyed, and their crops were laid to waste. Many Halflings escape to the Silvermarshes, eventually breeding with orcs to create a new race: Mullogs. Those halflings that survived or were spared began to rebuild once again, renaming New Hobbitshire as “Helmondshire” after Generu Helmond who rose up to help rebuild their halfling home. There are only a few dozen left, but in time, they are able to retain their numbers.

292 b.S.: Battle of Four Swords
Commander Boe Starlinggale volunteers to fight against the hordes of orcs to defend his halfling brothers and sisters. He joins the Halfling lancers and bravely fought against the invaders. Though the battle is lost, Boe Starlinggale, along with many other hobbits, including some of his fellow lancers, escape to Denilou with dwarves, elves, and men. There Boe Starlinggale helps to found a colony on the island.

292 b.S.: Fear from the North
After the fall of Carmalad, the attack orcs make an invasion on Istarin, setting fires to the forest where the Jhehellrhim live. Fearing the defeat of the elves and the progress of the orcs southward, many halflings flee far south, hoping to find safety. They setting in the Elvenground, just north of the Zeiphyrian Forest.

60 b.S. Battle at Hegedorn
The remaining Hafling lancers of Silvershire join into the Battle of Hegedorn, along with many new volunteers who want to protect their families and shire from the terror of the Móch’rónn. They help to defeat the dark elves there and return to the silvershire, working to fix the damages done to the shire and return their land to peace.

0 b.S.: The Kingdom of Santharia
The halflings of all tribes agree to become part of the Santharian alliance along with elves, dwarves, and men. Though the alliance proves to be shaky at first, they halfling shires are eventually able to return to a peaceful state, and begin to experience a new time of great growth and prosperity.

Thanks to J. R. R. Tolkien

Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 8/23/03 8:37
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« Reply #1 on: 19 August 2003, 12:39:00 »

"Concerning Hobbits"... Now where do I know this from? :lol

I see you're at hundreds of things at the same time including gnomish language, Rayne, and up more than 24 hours... Geeez... Well, your productivity is exceptional indeed;)  Propose to get a bit of focus in here: If possible try finishing this Hobbit entry and Dalireen completely, these things seem to be the least complicated to get approved and finished.

Then, as we have Ximax now, we should get the Cár'áll entry done - maybe Wren reappears in the meantime to give final comments on your people things as well;)  


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« Reply #2 on: 19 August 2003, 16:04:00 »

Arti, you should know by now that I'm evolving! I never actually leave - so how can I reappear? I'm always here even if I have nothing to say.

Now you want me to work on magic? Are you mad? The whole concept makes my head feel empty


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« Reply #3 on: 19 August 2003, 16:19:00 »

Oh I misread!

Phew.....

Erm - I've more or less completed the bits I want to add to, suggest Rayne changes..... But come on Arti. It takes me two months to draft an entry. You want me to add comment, its liable to take the same time, cos I won't work on something that I'm not intimatly familiar with.

Plus I've got my masters year report to do.

And I'm trying to get the music stuff as near to instinct as I can, because it looks like studio is the only option. And if I'm going to do thirteen tracks I don't have time to mess about and experiment like I did in Nottingham. I'll have to go in, sing play each part once and that'll be it. Its too expensive to do anything else.

So to say I'm feeling overworked is somewhere close to understatment. I think I'm here remarkably regularly considering..... give a girl a break hey?


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« Reply #4 on: 19 August 2003, 17:55:00 »

Not hundreds! Only... like.. tens..  :o   Mrow.

I'm still searching for things to add to this entry. I kind of added a quote that's heavily derrived from something Gandalf said near the end of Chapter 8 (Road to Isengard) in the third book (in the Two Towes one) of Lord of the Rings. I couldn't help it! It just fit so well! I also got Marriage, important birthdays, and funerals in there. There must be more to add, though! I'm sure of it!

Dalireen still needs work on her symbols. I've got a flower sketched out for her (well, the flower, the leaves, the tendrils, the peas, the pod, etc.) but have yet to right up the entry. My biggest problem is coming up with a name for it. @_@ How about the Arti Flower! :lol  

Cár'áll is an entry I would really like to finish and get up on the site. As for my Blood Eye Cult ("people things" ::raises an eyebrow:: ) , I'm starting to get scared that they are going to whither into the realm of forgotten entries!!

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« Reply #5 on: 20 August 2003, 11:04:00 »

Yeah, yeah, Wren, don't hit me;)   Just focus on your masters year report, this has top priority of course. I don't mean to cause you any unnecessary stress, so don't worry too much about Santharia right now.

And concerning the songs, once more: If it's a problem with your time resources for two sessions, I fully understand. If it's only a money problem, just leave that to me.

To Rayne: Seems your hobbits are getting along nicely and only Territory is still not done... Will check the whole entry soon:D  


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« Reply #6 on: 20 August 2003, 14:48:00 »

Both Arti. I spent 3 days on five tracks. By that reckoning it'll take me nearly two weeks to get through my song backlog. All I can do is work them out thouroughly in my head so when the time comes to record, I go in, record in one go, edit and leave. Otherwise It'll just become totally unworkable.

I've nearly finished Dala's Bone Queen though. String arrangments and every thing. Its on cassette......


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« Reply #7 on: 20 August 2003, 14:51:00 »

I don't know what I could put for territory that wouldn't be a restatement of what is to come in the tribe entries. Upon viewing other Race entries, I discovered that the only entries that actually had a location/territory section in them were Mullogs, Merfolk, ANd psyrpents. The rest (inclugind humans, elves, orcs, dwarves, etc etc) either had a blank section for it or not section at all.

I'm not sure if I should just restate what is to be said in the tribe entries (which I am planning to do) or leave the section out completely. What do you think?

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« Reply #8 on: 21 August 2003, 10:14:00 »

Ok, read the entry now, and it's really Very good, with a bit of Tolkien reference here and there, but I guess this is in order:)

Some notes:

- "Centorians" should be "Centoraurians"

- Territory: Well, I would take the paragraphs about the tribes starting with "In the Santharian Kingdom there exist 3 main Hobbit shires..." and put them up there. Also mention the Denilou hobbits here perhaps, and state that further settlements of hobbtis in the whole of Caelereth are not known, so that they basically can only be found in Sarvonia.

- SE? You say that's a rune of hospitality, but what does this "SE" mean exactly?

- Poetry: You might add perhaps that there's a big difference e.g. between elven and hobbitish poetry, as elves are in general more religious, spiritual and philosophical, while hobbits often reflect contentment in their poems, tell about nice adventures, the beauty of nature etc. So a Santharian saying could be to refer to rhymes and poems as "hobbitish", e.g. for little poem which helps you to forget about the life's sorrows by telling just a little lovely tale.

- Birthdays: You say 50 is quite important. Uhmmm... Why's that? How about 66? 88? And of course 111? As it seems that hobbits have a bit of a queer logic here and except round numbers (like 10, 20 etc.)  they prefer the duplication for some reasons (maybe aesthetical, superstition?). If duplication means something very important for them, then 111 of course is probably the most important birthday in a hobbit's life (unless someone reaches 222). It could be that this duplication is seen as a sign for harmony and contentment - as one thing alone is nothing, but two things of the same represent (for the hobbits) the start of accumulating wealth. This could be an approach to this love for duplication (at least seen from a human's eye, who tries to find out more here). Well, that's just an idea of course.

- I guess we could also add at the bottom of the entry near the member names: "Thanks to J.R.R. Tolkien" or something to give credit where credit is due:D  


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« Reply #9 on: 21 August 2003, 10:34:00 »

Ok, I fixed and aded most of what you wanted me too. Fixed the tribe spell, added in the poetry and changed the birthday of fifty to 55. The territory I moved, but I'm a little hesitant about expanding more on this until I find out if Koldar will allow Hobbits on his continent of Nybelmar.

As for the rune, erm... I'm not sure what it means. I found it in the Kingdom of Santharia entry:

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The SE rune finally is a halfling rune and in fact one of hospitality, adorning many halfling dwellings. In its essence it represents the small folk and its part in the Santharian community quite well.


I will be adding in more on Origin and I plan on doing a history section.

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« Reply #10 on: 21 August 2003, 10:37:00 »

*haha* Oh, you took that very literally, Rayne... Look at the Santharian Coat of Arms - that's the southeast rune you see on it... :lol  


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« Reply #11 on: 21 August 2003, 09:48:00 »

Oh. ::blushes:: Well that will have to be changed!

I finished the History, for the most part. I still have things I may need to add depending on the happenings of Denilou and whatever other continents may house halflings!

I do plan to get a scholarly origin explanation in there sometime.

If you could, perhaps, check the history, Mr. Arti, I would be very 'preciative. I don't know if I got all the information right. ^^''

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« Reply #12 on: 24 August 2003, 01:52:00 »

I've just re-read the entry (very nice changes everywhere!) and also prepared it already for the site (it's also uploaded already).

The history sounds also logical and doesn't seem to contradict existing things:)  Of course history is always still very temptative as long as the general overhaul isn't more or less completed, but we are aware of this and that it can last quite a long time to get it all right.

Atrii's Helmondsshire "founding" at the Silvershire (see here) of course doesn't really fit in here, but as your version is historically grounded, this seems much better of course, and I think it should remain that way.


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« Reply #13 on: 24 August 2003, 15:54:00 »

I've got a rewrite of the Elven race entry.

I'll make sure I touch on Location a bit more thougoughly.


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« Reply #14 on: 24 August 2003, 23:36:00 »

But I'm not done with the origin section... ::sniffles::

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