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« on: 09 January 2006, 20:11:00 »

I noticed that on the large map of the United Kingdoms of Santharia, it says "1 = 5,000,000", and then the small ruler given goes up to 300.  But I didn't notice what measurement it used.  Can any of you help me?  Because I'm trying to figure out how long it would take my new character to go from Nyermersys to relatively deep into Northern Sarvonia, and then all the way down to Marcogg.  If I could get a by foot analysis then a with horse one, I'd be very appreciative.  Or just the distances.  Either one would be very helpful.

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« Reply #1 on: 10 January 2006, 02:23:00 »

1 = 5,000,000 is a ratio one unit on the map equals 5,000,000 of the same unit in santharia.
If you measure 1cm it equals 5,000,000 cm in santharia.
If you measure 1inch it equals 5,000,00 inches in santharia.
If you measure one nailsbreadths it equals 5,000,000 nailsbreadths in santharia.

To put these in Santharian terms

1 inch = 5,000,000 inches = 78.91 miles = 3 Furlays, 3 Leagues, 9 Dashes, 89 Peds, 2 Fores, 1 Palmspan, 9 Nailsbreadths, 3 Grains.

1 cm = 5,000,000 cm = 50 km = 1 Furlay, 2 Leagues, 2 Strals

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« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2006, 03:17:00 »

You can't work with 1cm =50km on a computerscreen nor does it work if you print it out, for your print can have a different size as well.
But you can go to the Manthrian map and take the reference sheme there.
We decided about the size of Caelereth quite some time ago, but it is not yet on the site. I'll try to find somwthing for you.

If you want to know how long somebody needs to get from one point to another, than other things like the road or raiding orcs are what determine how far you get much more than the pure distance.

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Ok, here we are, I couldn't check though, if Art has taken the snmaller or bigger numbers though

(1stral = 1km)

Dragons Maw-Strata:-----------5000 (4800) strals
Dragons Maw - Bardavos----4062 (3900) strals
Dragons Maw - Seraia--------3516 (3375) strals
Dragons Maw - Santhala-----23448 (2250) strals

Santhala - Nyermersys-----2187,5 (2100) strals
Santhala - Marcogg---------937,5 (900} strals
Santhala - Elsreth------------937,5 (900} strals
Santhala - Chylikis----------703 (675) strals (next habour)
Chylikis - Varcopas----------700strals

Voldar - Milkengrad---------470 (450) strals
Strata - Bardavos-------------1250 (1200) strals

Chondra - Marcogg-------235 (225) strals
Auturian Woods-----------500 (480) x max 266 (255)strals(north of Marcogg)
Mithral Mountains length: 625(600)strals
Valley north of Marcogg (broad, middle value)200strals

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Edited by: Talia Sturmwind  at: 1/9/06 10:32
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« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2006, 04:34:00 »

And that is what Judy posted back then:

"Most horses can walk 4 miles in one hour or 1 mile every 15 minutes. Trotting would take about half that time. The endurance competiters will ride 100 miles in a straight 9-10 hour period. These are extremely fine tuned horses and riders, and the exception. In historic journals from the 1700's and 1800's 25 miles a day was a lot of traveling to do in one day- mounted or pulling a carriage."

"In 1737, Governor Gordon sent three fast walkers accompanied by three Indians to establish a new line. Before the end of three days, all men except Edward Marshall, a famous hunter, were exhausted. Marshall had covered sixty miles! "

"As the leg goes through a full cycle, the human walks two paces of length 1.14 m as measured on a volunteer. The speed is v = 2 x 1.14 m x (0.61 / sec) = 1.4 m/sec. With 1 mph = 0.447 m/sec, v = 3.1 mph. This is a remarkably reasonable estimate of a comfortable walking speed for an adult human. "

"The mean maximum speed that participants achieve across all conditions is 1.36 meters/second (N=285, SD = .162)."

" A well designed and sailed non-racing sailboat in good conditions can average just under 100 miles a day. but this depends a lot on how long and wide the sail boat is...."

"Remember that in the oceans there are currents, and most sailers make use of the currents for extra speed. So if the current in the water you are sailing though goes at 10kph, and your boat has a max hull speed of 8 and you are doing that, your total speed (assuming you are traveling the same direction as the current) is 18kph. As to how long it will take to cross the atlantic well, it was done in 55 days with a 10 foot sailboat. (The smallest to do so was 5 feet 4 inches long.) A 27 foot sailboat did it in 48 days, but had to deal with some nasty storms and a knockdown. "

An ox or mule-drawn covered wagon with 2500 pounds of supplies could cover an average distance of 10-15 miles per day across the American Prairies.

"A Hansom cab speed was about 9 miles per hour" (a horse-drawn buggy used in Victorian London).

"Barges have played a major role in France's economy for centuries, transporting both goods and people. Barges navigate well in shallow water, able to go anywhere there is three feet of water or more....Barge speed is limited to 3 mph on the canals and 10 mph on the rivers".


www.reality.com/dmback/lhtravel.htm is an interesting fantasy page on distances & speeds - someone else has already done the work!

www.heptovania.com/world/...travel.htm is also a good read and even Artimidor might envy the simple but efficient design of the page...

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« Reply #4 on: 11 January 2006, 19:44:00 »

Thank you very much!  That has helped tremendously!  *hugs for all*  Solved nearly all my problems! :D  

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